• RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    That is a really good photo. And it was cropped perfectly for the cover.

    I’d say hand it the Pulitzer, but there has been an absolute glut of award-level material so far this year.

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      2 months ago

      you’re absolutely right, settler is the word the colonists want you to use

      I just checked the previous awards, it is virtually only US newspapers.

      • The D Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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        yeah the award is specifically for american journalism. it was established to callenge the hegemony established by the robber barons who in the late 1800s were buying up all the legacy newspapers, undermining independent journalism

        imagine if like… jeff bezos bought the washington post. that’s basically what was going on. and because the robber barons weilded so much political power, the award required one of those robber barons setting up the award in his will. because he certainly wasn’t gonna cede that power in life.

        the only valuable journalistic outlets from that time were local newspapers run kind of secret, and Mother Jones which was at the time covering how the industrial boom in the urban north was coming at the cost of coal miners’ blood

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    The photo doesn’t even do him justice, watch the video. He’s a PERFECT representation of the worst of Israel in one person.

    He’s Israel’s Trump, I expect this man to run for office, and win

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    2 months ago

    You will never convince me that Israel is not literally just trying to follow every antisemitic stereotype on purpose.

    IDF soldier 1: “Hey, guys, you know what would be funny. Ha, what if we drank the blood of our victims babies? Ya, know, because that was an antisemitic lie the Nazis told about Jews. But, ya know, we do it ironically.”

    IDF soldier 2: “You mean like pretend we are doing it? Like when we take pictures in our victims lingerie. Like, ironically though. You guys aren’t actually taking their lingerie back with you. Are you?”

    IDF soldier 1: “…”

    IDF soldier 2: “…”

    IDF soldier 3: “So, when are we drinking baby blood?”

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      Its not completely a stereotype. Early judaism was temple animal sacrifice based. Going back a bit further, its a historical fact that they did kill children for a fertility ritual. Its true that they dont do it lately but they used to.

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        It’s entirely a stereotype, popularized by European autocratic régimes as a way to channel popular resentment away from nobility and royalty.

        At the time when ancient Israelites were sacrificing animals, the practice is the norm all around the Levant, the Fertile Crescent and the Mediterranean, so nothing special. If you want to “go back a bit further” you’re not talking about Judaism anymore but about earlier Canaanite and Mesopotamian religions.

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          If it was entirely a stereotype, then why is it factually true enough that rabbis are writing about it as a way to reconcile ancient texts with modern understanding of the religious concepts, and not framing it as a hostile stereotype?

          The whole basis of the religion is ancient texts of exactly that era you are now playing down here, is it not?

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        Dude. That is literally true of all societies and religions at some time or another.

        What is this? This is like “it was promised 3000 years ago” levels of irrelevant. It literally doesn’t have anything to do with the real blood libel shit Nazis were doing.

        I really hope this is just “technically Andy” brain you got going on.

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          This is like “it was promised 3000 years ago” levels of irrelevant.

          If we go by time for relevance isnt everything in Jewish and Christian holy books irrelevant too then? When does Jewish history start again, can you remind me?

          And you bring up nazis if I mention historical facts you dont want to talk about? I’m not a nazi. I beleive in universal human rights and dignity. Thats what so many of my comments are so very anti-israel. They are the ones whose actions are so like nazi actions, and you are the one helping them by throwing around accusations whenever you don’t like historical facts. I think the nazi here is much more you than me, but hey, you do you, Herr friendo.

          Didnt Isaac, the second of the 3 patriarchs of judaism, try to sacrifice his son at gods command only to be stopped at the last possible second by an angel, who gave instruction to Isaac to sacrifice a ram instead?
          The takeaway for jewish people in that story is that they should no longer sacrifice their children, but animals instead. So um why was that story ever even needed if it was completely irrelevant to judiasm?

          But everyone loses their mind when we talk about the history of sacrifice in Judaism at all, it seems. Its an unfortunate fact of history that it was done, and you cant revise your way out of that fact. Little bit late to control and whitewash that narrative, that ship has sailed whether you like it or not. Judaism evolved over time and is not what it once was, thats a fact. You can google “when was human sacrifice outlawed in Judaism” and you will see it was a reform of judaism, not a founding idea. Fact.

          I suppose you could try to burn a bunch of books to try to get rid of those historical facts? I think people like yourself burning books would be right on brand, right? You’ll need to burn down google too I guess.

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            You seem to have replaced the Jewish supremacy of an ethnostate like Israel with an unhealthy and unhelpful hyperfixation that seems to accept everything that Israel says about Jewish people but just reaches a different conclusion.

            It’s like if Israel said “yes Jews are actually magic money people, but it’s good”. You would just say “Yes, they are actually magic money people. But, it’s bad”.

            You’re also acting like the fundamentalist views of a religion represent all people of that religion.

            What is even helpful in what you’re saying? Your rambling about stories that are literally a part of Jewish, Christian, and Muslim beliefs.

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              You – not me-- started by denying the factual history of sacrifice and then just temper tantrummed. Isnt that why we are replying to each other in the first place? If you want to object to facts, next time bring facts to prove them wrong.

              Or be quiet. History does not depend on your acceptance or rejection of it.

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                What point are you trying to make? You’re rambling again.

                Is your point still that Jewish holy books have human sacrifice in them? The books that are a part of literally every Abrahamic religion? That’s it?

                Like, your inability to bring relevance to that point doesn’t mean I’m “denying” the content of religion books.

                Your rambling about shit because you’ve convinced yourself I’m “denying” something that im not. I’m saying it’s not relevant.

    • dansemacabreingalone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Okay, first off, that lie was from the czars not the nazis. The nazis just repeated it. Slandering the forebears of the real jews (weak diaspora jews are obviously all fake) is so fucking antisemitic. How dare you. How FUCKING DARE YOU.

    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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      2 months ago

      they are, netanyahu uses anti-semetism to justify that they need continued aid from the west, and to expand in the MIDDLE east.

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      In the 1948 Nakba the IDF poisoned wells in Palestine with typhoid, then cried antisemitism when they were accused of poisoning wells, due to the age old antisemitic trope. They literally did the thing that Jews throughout the ages have been falsely accused of and often died for, so that they could block any investigation. Words fail to describe the cynicality of that evil.

      Wikipedia: Operation Cast thy Bread

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    Why does everybody insist on calling enemy occupiers, “settlers”?

    When Russian civilians move in to annexed Ukrainian lands they’re not called settlers. Settler suggests peaceful civilians moving somewhere they’re allowed to inhabit, to start a new life.

    They’re invaders. Occupiers. Thieves.

    Settlers my arse.

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      1. you’re absolutely right, settler is the word the colonists want you to use
      2. historically, i can’t really think of any settlers who were peacefully domesticating unloved land. i think you can really only look at pre-historic first movers as non-violent “settlers” since anyone who’s been a settler since the invention of the written word has settled land against the interests and will of the indigenous people of those lands
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        The colonizing of North America, especially in the first century after its “discovery,” was often done by settlers moving into empty land. Except that the only reason it was empty is the inhabitants had already been killed by disease brought by the Spanish. Within 150 years after contact, the population of the Americas was reduced by 93%.

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          additionally, eurocentric world views tend to see nomadic people as less than. for the Apache, Blackfoot, Comanche, Crow, Lakota, Nez Perce, Ojibwe, Sioux, and i’m sure many others, that “empty” land didn’t look empty at all, even with their numbers reduced

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            Yes, I was also thinking of that. Very common for colonizers to arrive in seasonally-used lands and think they were empty until the natives showed up.

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          It is factually incorrect that it was all disease. America actively committed a violent genocide and murdered millions.

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            Oh I did not mean to imply that colonizers didn’t actively murder as well, but manifest destiny was a couple of centuries after the period that I’m talking about.

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            the time period @[email protected] is referencing predates America existingt as an idependent entity by about 2 centuries. the original rape of Turtle Island was a collaborative effort between the Spanish, French, Dutch, and English primarily. groups from Germany, Denmark, Scotland (which wasn’t yet unified with England), and Polish-Lithuania were also involved

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      L‘ Espresso just gave the term „Israeli Settler“ an associated image the Israeli regime decidedly dislikes.

      I think that’s perfect TBH. Let them use euphemisms (like collateral damage, alternative facts) as much as they want.

      Use it too and then rip away the mask with a photo like this.

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      I assumed most people use the term ironically, as “settlers” immediately brings them and their routine violence to mind. We know they’re not actually settling. That’s the joke.

      It’s a really bad joke, but I get it

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    2 months ago

    It is antisemitic in the sense that Israel has claimed the word, in that it accurately portrays the reality of Israeli colonialism

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    The Israeli dudes you see like in the videos of them spitting on women in hijabs on the street etc all look like inbred mongos fr

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      The young, angry, undereducated men are used as the tip of the spear against people living in the region.

      Imagine the government encouraging angry high-school dropouts to come assault you and they can have your house.

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    They’re all inbred AF, no wonder they look so unevolved. Instead of killing them, Israeli women should start fucking Palestinians and get pregnant to improve their genetic pool

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      Where i live, there aren’t a whole lot of jews at all. Tgere is a hewish community that is quite big in the next city tho. They are pretty hardcore, with the whole outfit. I used to work for one guy there and it was so weird how all stereotypes fit. Him and his whole family and every friend i met were rude and cheap as fuck. Like it was uncomfortable for me to just be around them. I don’t need anyone telling me to not touch them because i’m “dirty” because i’m not jewish. Don’t tell me you don’t have any money, because you own like 12 buildings with some high as fuck rent prices and you never fix anything. Every dude in that family of like 15 has some sort or mental problem, they are super slow and generally weren’t allowed to decide things and they could hardly talk right. Most of them had some sort of deformity, where they couldn’t really walk and move all that well. I never met a lot of women, but they seemed to me more on tge “normal” side. Still rude and pretty weird overall.

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            No no, I get it, let’s just give credit to all the other useless bullshit that dilutes the argument and gets us nowhere.
            Giving an excuse to horrible actions because of ‘generational trauma’ or other ‘less odd things to say’ wastes everybody’s time and gives them another day of atrocities to commit.

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              It’s more that you weren’t attacking the person for the crime they’re commiting, or even their personal ugliness, but seemed to be attacking an entire ethnicity based on their gene pool.

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                Saing they have a tendency to inbreeding isn’t an attack, it’s stating a fact.
                Their genetic pool is, as you can figure, a direct consequence of this fact.

                If I made it up, that would be an attack.

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                  Look at your first comment. Would you say the same about any other ethnic/cultural group with low genetic diversity? Do you see why it comes across as eugenicist?

                  It’s right to be outraged at this settler for what he’s doing to people in their homes. But when people focus genes and ethnicities rather than the crimes of an individual, they dilute blame away from the individual and drag in people who had nothing to do with it.

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            a. Because the opposite is already happening (without the consent from one side)
            b. Because I believe the child of a Israeli woman has more chances to succeed than the child of a Palestinian woman

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          Are you referring to the jaw? Since you just linked the wikipedia article of inbreeding and that was the only visible sign I could pick up from that.

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            ‘Overall simian features’ and mouth gum excess.
            Also the fact that they’re filming a crime against humanity hints at cognitive retardation…

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              I didn’t find any sources for those claims, but I don’t want to waste your time. I just wish you sourced your claims better, which should be easy for someone with a degree. Unless they hand them to any simian these days (sorry I had to)

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        I guess I have to thank you for giving my comment even more value. If it works for both sides then what are we waiting for?

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      there is alot of genetic diseases that are mostly associated with semetic jews, because of the inbreeding of specific group of jewish people. like some wierd ones lysosomal storage disorders, cruozon disease,etc

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    I’ve been imagining him as a demon. Imagine he was in a movie, playing a demon. Imagine the makeup the team would apply to his face. Can you picture it?