• Nocturne Dragonite@lemmygrad.ml
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      2 months ago

      What makes you think they can’t other than US propaganda? Once again, why are you willing to believe what the US says about it’s adversaries that it’s lied about before? Do you not remember when they lied about WMDs in Iraq?

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            2 months ago

            You’re the one dodging. Can they leave at any time without the government stopping them? It’s a yes or a no.

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              Every single country has travel restrictions what makes you think the DPRK is any different? Are you able to freely leave your country without a visa or a passport? Do you have to go through a security check at the airport to leave the country? Do you have to get government approval (not be a no-fly list)?

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                The visa and passports are the requirements the country a person is entering. I assume you’ve never had to leave your country…. Oh…. I get it now: You can’t.

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                  Okay can you leave your country without a passport? Can you board an international flight from your home country to the rest of the countries on earth without a government issued passport from your home country?

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                    Lmfao the fact that it’s devolved into this is clear bad faith discussion, this isn’t even a good talking point because people from the DPRK travel and work in China all the time, and this dudes response was a chatgpt “nuh-uh”

                • ☭ Comrade Pup Ivy 🇨🇺@lemmygrad.mlM
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                  US law states you cannot leave the United States without having a valid passport. The US does restrict people leaving the US. (Let alone how they restrict the places you can go)

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                    Incorrect. There is no exit law that you have to possess a passport on your way out. If I’m wrong, show me the law on the gov website.

                    The US (and most countries) have no laws that restrict the movement of people between countries.

                    I’m saying people in North Korea, who aren’t rich or powerful, can’t just leave North Korea on a whim… effectively imprisoning them.

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      Are any citizens anywhere allowed to leave whenever they want freely and without any sort of government regulation of a passport, background check, security check, government approval (ie not put on a “no-fly list”) or without a visa or without fear of being detained for any reason whatsoever? Can I as a US citizen freely travel to Cuba? Or to Iran? Or to Palestine? Or to Venezuela? Or the DPRK?