Surveillance protects people from terrorism, and sacrificing some privacy makes us safer.

Do you agree? If not, what is your counterargument?

  • corvus@lemmy.ml
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    5 months ago

    Incarceration protects you from thieves and murderers, and sacrificing some liberty makes you safer.

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      5 months ago

      I think that’s mixing up two different things. Incarceration isn’t the same as surveillance, and a lot of people feel like surveillance doesn’t physically impact their daily lives.

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              5 months ago

              Your are lucky if your friends and parents don’t use facebook, but I’m not so lucky and I’m asking for help

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                5 months ago

                I’ve told plenty of my friends and family that they are behaving like children with no literacy abilities. I’ve also had productive conversations with those same people. infantalization often forces people to reapproach with logic (or get pissy which is funny).

                sometimes you have to just hold your ground and stop offering concessions in the hope of finding common ground or an understanding. they aren’t operating on real data or rational logic.

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                    5 months ago

                    ideologies and misconceptions that aren’t based on rational logic or evidence isn’t going to be countered effectively by rational logic or evidence. you need to make people assume the mindset of the victim for them to see the issue.

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            5 months ago

            all those people should give me their banking info so I can make sure there are no fraudulent purchases. my surveillance will protect them. it doesn’t matter if I’ve stolen money from others as long as I don’t steal from them, it’s fine right? they benefit so harming anyone else is okay.