The fact that Anna’s Archive isn’t responding to the court tells me they couldn’t give a shit about the lawsuit.
Glorious.
Working Anna’s Archive link :
TY!
Did they release the actual music yet?
It would be funny if they didn’t actually have any of it and were just pestering the industry. But they did release all the metadata, and spotify seems to think it’s legit…
It’s funny because Spotify disabled app creation from their developer portal. I bet the scraping was just calling their APIs
“Sir, this is a Wendys” energy.
And how much of that hypothetical $13 Trillion would be shared the poor, poor artists?
Wouldn’t that be somewhere along the lines of $1000 per person, if divided over every single person in the world?
Closer to 1600
Roughly $0.00002/a/s/l/m
There are 15.43 million artist on spotify, so they’d get about $836,000 each.
Less Spotify’s share, and the record label’s share, and the lawyer’s share…and of course they’d give the artists with the most streams a bigger share (they’re the ones with the labels who get a big cut).
So about tree fiddy.
When this whole thing with Lily Allen was a thing, where she got more from posting feet pic on OnlyFans than from Spotify, someone posted an article that said Spotify is paying out like 150k-200k per month just for her streams. And yet only a tiny fraction of that ends up with her. Music labels fucking suck.
If the litigants suffered these tremendous losses bc of AA, can they not deduct these losses from their taxes?
Oh, wait…
We can’t sleep at night, it was… It was… HORRIBLE
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How would they expect to collect this “money” thing? Across international borders and stuff?
Just like the Pirate Bay they will try to find and prosecute individuals behind it and then try and force governments to block the domains. Which they did, all of those guys spent trivial prison sentences (this was early internet and in Sweden, circumstances are not the same anymore), and TPB was down for like… A year I think, before it popped right back up and is going just as strong as it ever did. Because just like these capitalist laws to protect the technofeudal class evolve to protect them, so does the methods by which creative hackers employ tech to fuck them in the ass.
Hydrabay 4 lyfe
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According to the article, $150,000 is the maximum damages allowed per track. So $150,000/track * 86,000,000 tracks is around $13 Trillion. So they are asking for the maximum that the law allows.
They could ask for infinity billion dollars for all it matters; you can’t get blood from a stone.
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I had a double take on that number they’re asking for.
$13 Trillion? Geez, fucking greedy much? Not that they haven’t been greedy before, but we’re used to seeing millions and billions that are asked per track (technically they’d ask ridiculous sums of like $10,000 ~ even $100,000 per track in the past). But this just glaringly demonstrate how greedy these fucks really are and they just gotta tell everyone about it.
I still say it was dumb of Anna to bother with Spotify but I like the defiance of just not caring.
I mean, is Anna’s archive under risk even? Yeah, worst case they can get every major DNS to ban them, but that won’t stop them from being accessible. And if they operate in a country that doesn’t give a shit, they won’t face consequences,especially if their opsec is good enough
Not to mention, things are backed up with torrents. If their servers get raided they would be able to restart where they left off
In my eyes, if you got the chance at something major like spotify’s entire library, you take it.
lol
lmao even
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And you get high speed downloads if you do so!
These numbers are always shitty napkin math that assumes every pirate would be a paying customer even though a lot of them don’t have the money to even spend as much as they calculate, would just skip jumping through all the hoops they’ve created or don’t even have a legal way to purchase in their country. Completely brazen lies every time
And many will download just to hoard and not listen to that music ever. Like those “100 greatest hits from…” where you don’t know half of them and don’t like half of the ones you know.
The article says they are seeking $150K per track, which is the maximum legal amount.
I’ve honestly been trying to figure out this move for weeks. What was the point of grabbing it ALL when it’s so easy to rip whatever you want with some of the tools? Was it just a big “F you”? And peace - that’s a reason :) In that case they could care less what they get sued for. But to me it seems like unnecessarily whacking at the hornets nest. I hope it doesn’t bite them in the arse someday.
I mean i don’t think spotify is easily rippable with any tool. So it was an immediate chance to get them all. Also annas archive is all about storing and preserving thoose files. It is useful when a song gets removed from spotify or something
Could make it possible to just spin up russian-spotify with a new color theme and all the data.
Yeah, as ridiculous as the record labels are – their reaction is exactly what one would expect after such a high profile move.
Friendly reminder that streaming services have negatively impacted artists and art cultivation. Headbanging while blackout drunk at a dive bar gig, without directly giving the band(s) a penny, would help them more than their semiannual Spotify payout
One of my favorite memories is inviting both my best friends and coworkers to a metal show at Saint Vitus, both groups hitting it off and making new friends, chatting with the bands at the merch table, and eating enough pizza to vomit on the sidewalk the moment I stepped outside.
At this point I must cancel my Spotify subscription. Any suggestion on how to implement a somewhat automated music discovery system that can replace Spotify’s “radios” and playlists?
I already run a Navidrome instance.
I’m using last.fm to scrobble my music to. It brings me the most Spotify features minus the streaming part (even has a neat playback thing which appears at the end of the year instead of at the begining of december)
Try out manual music discovery, it’s dope!
I used to hang out at the record store when I was a young person… Nowadays I’m old and don’t have the same patience.
Try Listenbrainz, it creates weekly discovery playlists based on your listening habits.
Get a box of cds at a garage sale.
$13.000.000.000.000
Like, are we 12 now? I too would come up with these bazonker numbers at that age.
Fuck Spotify,fuck the current legal system that got us here
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Are you going to tell me that investors are bumb enough not to see that nobody will ever even see a % of a % of a % of a % of a % of that number?
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So in other words, yes, they are that dumb
While I do agree in general, Open ai is not a public company. Valuation logics of private companies are quite different than stock market.
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