The United States has always had immigration control. Ellis island? This is exactly why progress cannot be taken seriously. You cherry pick these nonsense causes and then die on a hill that is crazy. There are real issues to deal with I promise you that a world with no borders isn’t one of them. Lets try a semblance of equality first
Oh friend. I suggest you educate yourself, you don’t know how wrong you are.
During the 18th and most of the 19th centuries, the United States had limited regulation of immigration and naturalization at a national level. Under a mostly prevailing “open border” policy, immigration was generally welcomed, although citizenship was limited to “white persons” as of 1790, and naturalization was subject to five-year residency requirement as of 1802. Passports and visas were not required for entry into America; rules and procedures for arriving immigrants were determined by local ports of entry or state laws. Processes for naturalization were determined by local county courts.[1][2][3]
You’re fighting yourself with this reply. ‘Open border’ doesn’t mean no border. You clearly stated that only whites were allowed. How do you think they limited that access? With hopes and dreams? Again, you’re just not as smart as you think you are even with all the sources you can imagine. Borders you don’t like are still borders
Ellis Island opens in 1892, over a century after the USA were created. There were no federal immigration controls before that. States handled arrivals loosely, if it all. Most migrants simply got off their boat and stayed.
During its first decades, Ellis Island was not a modern border control but rather a filter for contagious disease and extreme incapacity (eg. they didn’t want sick or handicapped people, only able bodied workers). Admission rate was 98%, it was triage motivated by stopping the recurring pandemics in the dense urban environment of NYC.
US border control starts in 1921-1924 with the quota acts, although you could arguably say the 1882 Chinese Exclusion Act is the real birth of it (that act did not come with the means to enforce it though).
Aristide Zolberg’s “A Nation by Design” goes through all of this. Read it and educate yourself instead of making a fool of yourself on the Internet. I must once again insist that you stop discussing history online. You will get clowned for it.
You’re so far into the academic element of this you’re missing the point entirely. You’re saying that a new nation in a relatively underdeveloped area of the world was capable of keeping out undesirable elements but they don’t have border control? It was loose, sure, but it existed. All I’m saying is you can die on a hill that’s achievable. Put this effort into everyone getting enough food instead of some high minded notion of borderless states. It’s silly
The United States has always had immigration control. Ellis island? This is exactly why progress cannot be taken seriously. You cherry pick these nonsense causes and then die on a hill that is crazy. There are real issues to deal with I promise you that a world with no borders isn’t one of them. Lets try a semblance of equality first
Oh friend. I suggest you educate yourself, you don’t know how wrong you are.
The Wikipedia article on “ History of immigration and nationality law in the United States”
You’re fighting yourself with this reply. ‘Open border’ doesn’t mean no border. You clearly stated that only whites were allowed. How do you think they limited that access? With hopes and dreams? Again, you’re just not as smart as you think you are even with all the sources you can imagine. Borders you don’t like are still borders
Ellis Island opens in 1892, over a century after the USA were created. There were no federal immigration controls before that. States handled arrivals loosely, if it all. Most migrants simply got off their boat and stayed.
During its first decades, Ellis Island was not a modern border control but rather a filter for contagious disease and extreme incapacity (eg. they didn’t want sick or handicapped people, only able bodied workers). Admission rate was 98%, it was triage motivated by stopping the recurring pandemics in the dense urban environment of NYC.
US border control starts in 1921-1924 with the quota acts, although you could arguably say the 1882 Chinese Exclusion Act is the real birth of it (that act did not come with the means to enforce it though).
Aristide Zolberg’s “A Nation by Design” goes through all of this. Read it and educate yourself instead of making a fool of yourself on the Internet. I must once again insist that you stop discussing history online. You will get clowned for it.
You’re so far into the academic element of this you’re missing the point entirely. You’re saying that a new nation in a relatively underdeveloped area of the world was capable of keeping out undesirable elements but they don’t have border control? It was loose, sure, but it existed. All I’m saying is you can die on a hill that’s achievable. Put this effort into everyone getting enough food instead of some high minded notion of borderless states. It’s silly
Apparently they’re successfully deploying Cunningham’s Law to get their education.
Would be the case if they were able to read/understand.
They seem to just be stubborn and dumb.
“Give me your” immigration guards.
That’s how it went, right?
/s
I suggest dropping the fallacies that bind you in such a tizzy. I suggest cease creating self-sabotaging pre-requisites to progress.