Right after ICE Agent Johnathan Ross executed a US citizen in cold blood
Cops are on the side of the cops. Don’t be fooled by copaganda where local police are pushing against the feds or the DoJ put a local police department under a consent decree. We need to be pushing to abolish the police and let these violent assholes try to get away with their bullshit when they don’t have their gang with them.
“When citizens are accused of a crime, they are given the presumption of innocence as afforded by due process. When there is an incident involving law enforcement, politicians and activists immediately condemn those involved and are scrambling for sound bits. They do not afford them the same due process but rather convict them in a public court of opinion while an investigation is barely beginning”
Well, that’s an absurd claim. Simply being arrested for a crime is often enough for the public to believe that a private citizen is guilty, and they can lose employment, business deals, a marriage or relationship long before any “due process” occurs. When police are accused of a crime, often they face no consequences at all, and if they are charged, they get the exact same due process as any other citizen.
Also ironic since in this case the President and Secretary of Homeland Security immediately came out stating that the victim was a domestic terrorist and tried to murder the ICE agent with her car before any investigation was conducted, and both of which turned out to be false.
Also ironic because they executed her on the spot by shooting her in the face.
Yeah, I feel like that’s a rather large thing to have overlooked. How the fuck do you release a statement saying citizens have a presumption of innocence when the guy literally judged and executed a citizen on the spot?
Sounds about right https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusation_in_a_mirror
also, cops are immune to prosecution, so the court of public opinion is like, all they have
They’re not completely immune. If the action is egregious enough or unpopular enough with the public (which seems to be what they’re complaining about), police can be convicted of crimes. Derek Chauvin, for example.
It took me way too long to realise it’s the immunity that’s qualified, not the officer.
The ruling in Harlow v Fitzgerald was actually illegal according to the full text of the law as written and passed. SCOTUS was given an illegally amended copy of the law.
Qualified Immunity is illegal.
no that can’t be true, obviously a just and honorable institution like the supreme court would have caught a mistake in the time since and corrected it. are you trying to besmirch the supreme court’s honor? you know theyre the SUPREME court, right? how dare you
But people say mean things about them online :(
There are also two glaring problematic assertions with that part that imo should bear removal of those involved in this statement from law enforcement:
'Citizens are afforded… ’ categorically false. All people in the USA are afforded due process, regardless of citizenship.
Becoming a politician does not lessen ones right to free speech. The very fact they have the balls to make this statement about their bosses (the state and local governments) shows an inherent insubordinatio and lack of respect for the structure from which they derive their authority: the states laws and governance.
Fire these fucks, and threaten a Regan style retaliation against any cops striking or protesting their dismissal (ie any cop protesting or striking over the decision is bamned from seeking LE employment in the state, for life)
exact same due process as any other citizentreated like an innocent person and are often moved districts for a fresh start FTFYIn the “we’re going to investigate ourselves” phase, yes, of course. However sometimes police are charged with crimes for their actions. Clearly far, far less often then anyone else would be prosecuted in court for the same crimes.
When its public enough and visible enough that it can’t be avoided, sure.
And then once things die down, they get pardons, or a win on appeal by a friendly judge, whatever, and back on the street in anither district. From DUIs to manslaughter and more, and fully reinstated. Some aren’t as lucky and just end up with a suspended sentence and probation.
The number who actually go to prison for their crimes is miniscule.
I’m curious about the due process of getting shot in the face…
As has been said before, and will be said again:
Fuck The Police.
They exist to enrich themselves, have a powertrip as a day job, gain a higher effective class of citizenship, and to protect the property rights of the oligarchs.
Anything else they ever do is basically an accident, an incidental, occasional side effect stemming from the particular manner in which they carry out their actual purposes for existing.
Fops, the lot of them
The lady they shot sure didn’t get any of that due process. Hypocrites.
In other news criminal gang stand with criminal gang
ACAB
I think not murdering people would make your jobs less difficult and dangerous.
Remember that time protestors burned the 3rd precinct in Minneapolis? That was fucking rad.
Innocent until proven guilty doesn’t mean you stand by the likely guilty and defend their actions. Either you wait for proof - demanding due process - or you stay silent.
Sure, but you can’t expect cops to understand that
Shut the fuck up, Porky!
The Minnesota Fraternal Order of Police folks apparently are blind or totally corrupt because the videos show one of their own executing a citizen in broad daylight with many witnesses present. Their response is to lie like criminals.
They will be judged to be on the wrong side of history.you can’t call cops corrupt, that would imply that the system is broken. they’re doing the job the police was always created to do, white supremacy
He deserves the exact same due process that Renee received.
I don’t “presume innocence” when I see someone shooting someone else in the face. Kind of stupid.
It doesn’t matter if a judge and jury says so or disagrees, he still shot her in the face while in absolutely no danger.
He’s guilty, independent of any court ruling, it’s not debatable.
The fake cop/murdeter gets innocence presumed, but not the innocent woman he executed? Every cop should get what they deserve.
ACAB
