• BanMe@lemmy.world
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    “I am angry the overton window has moved so far to the right, I’m going to blame the folks trying to move it leftward”

    What hasn’t happened is an IRL movement around a new party or leader. What has happened is lots of “divide the left” memes and posts. I do wonder who that sentiment serves the most.

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      Leftists are always anti-DNC and focus on organizing over electoralism, so I don’t see why you think this is related to any election coming up.

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      Kinda? The spectrum aspect is a bit iffy and I don’t use it, but there are absolutely socialists on the left and capitalists on the right, and that’s useful for understanding. Trying to argue over which is more or less left or right doesn’t usually matter as much as the left/right distinction outright.

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    Liberalism has always been right from center. You can put neo in front of it all you’d like.

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    All I want is the freedom to vote how I want and still count my vote if my first choice didn’t win. Democrats should be free to run their political party how they want. Just like how everyone else should be free to participate in our elections. Free of a spoiler effect.

    There should be no monopoly on the future of our nation. Republican, or Democrat.

    Surely the freedom to vote how people want is not to high a bar for the democrats to clear right? Self proclaimed democracy advocates surely want the people to be represented fully… right?

    I would never force a liberal to vote for my preference in a election, why is it okay for them to do that to me?

    And it is a conscious decision to force me to vote a certain way. Every election democrats mercilessly rage at 3rd party voters. The Democratic party and their voters understand that First-past-the-post voting is flawed. Yet in blue states, fully in control of the Democratic party, FPTP voting shackles the people.

    Democrats understand FPTP voting does a bad job of representing the nation. They ignore this festering gaping mortal wound… all for safe states and easy elections against a complete clown show. One that has defeated them in every way possible.

    The monopoly is over democrats. You never deserved it, and you most certainly do not deserve it now in our darkest hours. Get out of the way, we have to move forward as a nation.

    The Democratic party is not more important then the United States of America.

    Electoral Reform Videos

    First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)

    Videos on alternative electoral systems

    STAR voting

    Alternative vote

    Ranked Choice voting

    Range Voting

    Single Transferable Vote

    Mixed Member Proportional representation

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      The system can’t be reformed to favor the working class because it was created by & for the owner class, the “donor” class. If necessary they will unleash fascism to maintain control.

      The Democratic party is not more important then the United States of America.

      They both have to go. There’s never going to be a socialist USA. That can only happen after a revolution leading to an different state with a different name.

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      I think actually a party guilty of genocide should not be free to run in elections, or even free to remain outside of prison

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      I don’t think chsnging the voting system will fix this. There is still a 2 party system in australia despite a democracy with preferential voting for over 100 years.

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    Nothing new, in a profoundly capitalist structure like the US, there are no other options than to choose between conservatism and fascism, substituting reason for “in God we trust” and “Stars and Stripes”, to keep citizens ignorant and obedient to continue functioning.

  • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Their strategy is to give into Trump’s demands in the hopes that it prevents him from destroying their precious institutions. They hope to be able to take over from an unpopular Republican party after Trump dies without really undoing the damage he’s done. The problem with this approach is that it will prevent the system from needing to be properly rebuilt, effectively legalizing most of his abuses of power and prolonging the instability of our country. A big part of this will be institutionalizing the blatant corruption and oligarchy while further rigging elections to make it impossible for popular movements to ever legally gain power.

    A Gavin Newsom or Pete Buttigieg presidency will see them ruling as a weaker feudal king than Trump, but only to promote business activity and interests. Relying on the honeymoon period following Trump’s removal, they will position themselves as the saviors of “democracy,” yet they will do little to actually undo a lot of the election rigging that Republicans are installing right now. They will suppress workers rights and throw the most disposable minorities under the bus, deregulating and burning through all the goodwill they have. They’ll parade the corpse of liberalism around as long as fools will believe it, but it will be a cynical gesture.

    In order for actual liberal democracy to exist again in this country, the liberals would need to have shown a backbone and resist Trump no matter how much he destroys institutions. They would need to risk temporary jail time and potential assassination to invigorate long term support for a rebuilt American dream. Instead they’re showing that they never cared about liberal ideals, only the goodwill liberalism afforded their power.

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      Yeh. The strategy seems to be to wait for their “turn” and make it look like the care while they watch everything they claim to stand for be destroyed.

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      Funny, I remember us ending up with Trump because the Democrat party views its own voters with abject contempt and forced an 80yo genocidal madman on the electorate twice without a legitimate primary where Barrack Obama doesn’t order anybody to drop out… but sure, it’s the voters’ fault for not liking that the DNC won’t even deign to pander to its own voters. This is a smart take that is in no way a sign of Stockholm syndrome identifying with your abuser…

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      Turns out supporting genocide makes you look bad. Someone should’ve told Biden and Copmallah.

      It’s almost as if your party duopoly consists of two fascist parties.

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    Always remember that left and right are difficult terms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left–right_political_spectrum

    In Germany Harris would have been conservative CDU (the most conservative/right party before the AfD turned up) and Trump would have been in the AfD. However, CDU is still fine. Nothing bad about being conservative. I disagree with most of their opinions but they are valid political opinions. AfD and Trump share political opinions that are undemocratic, dangerous and stupid.