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The iPhone versus Android battle has just taken a sudden twist as hackers attack smartphones.
Archived version: https://archive.is/20251130104350/https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2025/11/30/israels-idf-bans-android-to-stop-hackers-iphones-mandatory/
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I spent some time knowing about business practices and user-hostile design and I’ll never use an apple device. And I’ll definitely never give apple another penny, fucking fake assholes.
I’d like to caveat that this is not a denial that google is horrible, their os is just the only reliable alternative to a Linux phone atm
I think you’re doing the tech tribalism thing here whereas I’m talking about actual device security.
I get it’s popular to hate Apple. Cool. You’re cool for hating Apple.
Anyone who is genuinely interested in mobile security ought to read some of the white papers or device analysis’ which are available to the public. Security conferences are your best avenue for finding information available to the public.
Anyways, cool, hate Apple but for some reason give Google a pass.
For a Apple hater you really seem to like Apple
Thanks for at least speaking the truth to these drones. I think there is a certain type of tech fanboy that doesn’t actually have any technical knowledge, but likes to spout off. They think because they are fans they know something about technology, but don’t know about real details of security and how exploits work.
They have difficulty accepting that actually iOS is more secure than almost every Android phone aside from GrapheneOS.
Lol like anyone here gives a shit that you fancy yourself knowledgeable
Talk about something of substance or don’t talk. If you aren’t citing security research or up to date details from Cellebrite’s technical documentation, then you’re not contributing anything. And, citing 6 year old articles as if it means something shows me I am more knowledgeable than you. I do have a degree in computer science and have studied security exploits. What about you? You’re an Android fan boy?
You haven’t said anything yet. Not interested.
Oh nice, a non-response because you have nothing.
On the contrary. Someone posted evidence showing apple bullshit is not secure and yet here you are saying it’s a fact and that any denial of that would undoubtedly be rooted in some baseless fanboy shit. K.
Ps I used to like apple until I realized that everything they claim to be is a lie. That and their entire business model is to prevent you from using your device any way besides ways that make them more money.
What evidence are you referring to?
As far as I can tell my anecdote about my professional experience is the only context here besides the post.
Your ps is irrelevant, I’m a security researcher and spent the last decade in this field, specifically mobile security. I’ll take my professional experience over the it’s cool to be a tech tribalist opinion.
Disagree if you’d like, the device you use doesn’t matter to me at all.
You can pretend they didn’t post a link showing that an Israeli software company can unlock any iPhone. Pretend is all you can do though. Kind of telling that I explicitly said fuck Google but you still insist I’m tRiBaLiSt.
And you claiming to be an expert couldn’t possibly mean less. I have no way of confirming that and honestly even if I did it wouldn’t mean you know everything.
Enjoy your unsecure, unusable phone in a literal fascist ecosystem.
The link is 6 years old and includes dated information about Cellebrite. You should at the very least post updated information about the latest mobile OS versions vulnerable to Cellebrite. Spoiler: Android is very vulnerable and I haven’t seen information that the latest iOS is.
I legitimately don’t see the link you’re referring to, I’m not pretending about anything.
Maybe it’s not federating on my end, could you link it?
Cellebrite struggles with iPhones, and some newer Android devices. Is it another company?
You’re getting awfully vitriolic about this discussion, I’m not sure if you’re unfamiliar with the concept of tech tribalism but this is it basically to a T.
Again, use whatever device you want. My experience informs my anecdote which has you so upset.
Lol it’s exactly cellebrite. Maybe don’t talk up your expertise so much?
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-tech-company-says-it-can-break-into-all-iphones-ever-made-some-androids/
Not sure if you blocked this user for proving you wrong in the past or what but it’s right there in the thread.
Cellebrite is unable to crack the latest versions of iOS. It can break Android, unless the user has GrapheneOS.
https://osservatorionessuno.org/blog/2025/03/a-deep-dive-into-cellebrite-android-support-as-of-february-2025/#the-february-2025-support-matrix
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2025/10/cellebrite-leak-raises-alarms-are-pixel-phones-really-hackable.html
Company makes claims they are unable to back up in real world scenarios, I have a professional relationship with cellebrite and access to their latest forensics kit they export.
It doesn’t open iPhones.
Occasionally THEY open iPhones, but we’ve had to send them to cellebrite and we are convinced they’ve found a novel way to break the lockout rather than the actual lock. It’s believed to be a brute force. And I’ve never had it work.
But yes. They claim that, but haven’t backed it up practically.
Christ that article is from 2019. That information is so old. They were opening old iPhones with a public exploit that Apple patched in 2019.
AND that claim was only about the iPhone X and older devices which they had a boot loader exploit for.
More recently leaked Cellebrite slide decks claim the exact opposite.
Ok. Maybe you’re right about all of that. I would have no way of knowing. Just like I still have no way of knowing that you’re right about android security. From many things I’ve read over the years, I’d lean toward iOS being less secure. But even if I never read any of that, it logically just wouldn’t add up that one platform would be much more secure than the other. I do know that they’ve been marketing themselves as all about privacy and security and that’s easily seen to be a pack of lies from light-years away. So given that I’m back to assuming they probably are less secure if anything.