They said it’s “threatening violence”, breaking Rule 1
Reddit moment
The left: Maybe we have to do violence?
Liberals: How dare you!
Nazis: We already did some violence, it was awesome. We have every intention of doing more.
Liberals: Well they already did it, so let’s put it behind us.
“Look forward, not backward”
Are you insinuating it’s not the right wing influence on reddit causing this, but rather the “wrong” kind of left wing …? Lemmy is weird.
Cause isn’t so simple. One enables the other.
Look at how neo-Nazis abuse liberalist values to demand a protected platform. “Tolerance”, “free speech”, “anti-violence”, you know they don’t believe in these but they’ll always demand it from you.
I think he’s insinuating that libs enable fascism
There is a trend on this platform for people to be just as mad at center-left people as the fuckin actual Nazis. And it’s counterproductive as fuck
Nazis aren’t going to change, they have to be defeated. You defeat them by changing the liberals.
Fine – spraying hatred on the “liberals” won’t do that though.
Pointing out a double standard is not hatred
I’m referring to a sentiment I see all over lemmy quite often. I don’t think you get to dismiss all those cases are politely pointing it out. Plenty of other users here notice it too, and point out how counter productive it is. I mean even just the term “liberal” is seen as a proxy for evil here. My guess is that plenty of “liberal” people don’t even conform to the views they are presumed to hold, and plenty of “liberals” are very much on board with most of the same leftist ideas as the ones claiming ideological purity over the liberals. The biggest difference is that some of the purists may know more history than some of the people they hate and claim are the problem.
Liberals are not center-left, and the reason why that’s important to recognize is because in the struggle between socialism and capitalism, liberals by definition side with capitalism. Historically, liberals have sided with fascists over leftists, because leftists affirm systemic change.
Both can exist simultaneously and share blame.
Yeah, I suppose. It’s just vastly more an issue with the right.
You say banned but you only get banned after repeated violations if what you say is true it was the straw on the camels back. Here on some community I was racially profiled and I told the person to go fuck themselves and my post was removed but not theirs.
We are all just at the mercy of some very insecure and weak mods who feel strong spitting on expression. Reddit is actually better in some regards because there is a degree of accountability, no one is holding these scat instances accountable.
Yes it’s a temporary ban. I’ve had previous accounts fully banned for pro-Palestine content
You say you had multiple accounts banned for pro palestine content but you mean your accounts got banned because you were creating multiple accounts to bypass rule enforcement… lemmy.ml is famous for its political censorship are you just doing this to distract from that? Don’t bullshit a bullshitter.
All instances do political censorship, Lemmy.ml is “famous” for it because instances like Lemmy.world that censor leftists defederate from the communist/aligned instances except for Lemmy.ml. Instances affirm and reinfirce certain stances and viewpoints.No they do not and if they did it is a bad thing join me in calling it out. Famous because when researching what lemmy to join .ml was heavily warned against because of the strong political censorship.
I’ve been banned for calling out the DNC’s support for genocide of Palestine, calling out transphobia, etc. Lemmy.world is pro-liberalism, and censors dissent. It also blocks the 2 most active communist instances, Lemmygrad.ml and Hexbear.net, meaning it censors them absolutely.
Lemmy.ml is pro-communist and anti-liberal, yes. Hate speech and right-wing apologia are removed. The people complaining about censorship on Lemmy.ml are largely those who go against that. Lemmy.ml is more broadly federated than Lemmy.world is, though, so we can see more diverse viewpoints.
All instances censor, be it overtly or through soft means like defederation. All instances have political bias in some manner.
More than anything, your comment was removed for the homophobic/misogynistic aspect of your insult, it wasn’t just telling someone to fuck themselves.
Oh cool so I can tell you go fuck yourself? Go fuck yourself you lying dog telling someone to suck it is neither homophobic nor misogynistic. Because if it was go fuck yourself would be too…
Telling someone to “suck your dick” is generally homophobic/misogynistic, and draws on societal shame towards heterosexual women and gay men performing those acts, and submitting to you, for doing so. Being rude doesn’t get removed nearly as much as those kinds of insults.
What shame? What submission? You are being misogynistic and homophobic.
I am not being misogynistic nor homophobic. The only reason dicksucking is usable as a pejorative is to draw on historic sexism and homophobia, and telling someone to suck your dick draws on that social trauma. Telling someone to give you a haircut, for example, is still a service but doesn’t have that social trauma to make it a pejorative, and thus it doesn’t hit like one.
And that is also some false equivalence. I mean go fuck yourself was right there.
Not as directly homophobic/misogynistic
You are saying givers of oral pleasure, generally heterosexual women and homosexual men, are doing something that is shameful and traumatic? That’s homophobic and misogynistic.
No, it isn’t homophobic nor misogynistic to state that there have been generations of bigotry and sexism. Again, if you meant oral sex in a positive, liberating way, then it would not be a pejorative. That’s why telling someone to give you a haircut isn’t insulting, even though it’s a service.
Funny, a world mod banned me from a comminity for the exact same reason.
They’re the reddit of lemmy.
And now a lot of them are moving over to piefed I notice.
I mean, it is. A punch is a violent action.
And reddit has never ever been shy about enforcing sitewide rules inconsistently. I have no idea why people act all shocked and offended by this shit, it’s why there’s so damn many reddit clones and has been happening for over a fucking decade.
Beyond that, please for the love of all that is good, SHUT THE FUCK UP ONLINE. Go get involved with your local groups and stop incriminating yourself.
Go read up on proper goddamn opsec. Regularly shuffle your online identities and the identifying info connected to them. Learn where the tracking cameras are in your area and routes to avoid them. Ways to spot and shake tails. Ways to discretely shift your appearance so you don’t get picked up wearing the same fucking coat. The tactics that feds and pigs use against resistance movements, how to spot them. How to do first aid and care for allies. Learn your local allies so you recognize newcomers (and potential infiltration).
And stop doing this performative “I’m so tough/hard” shit online. Save the effort for real fucking action. Go do it, and do it in a way that you won’t be the first obvious fucking suspect.
As for me? This online identity is already burned, and my risk profile is not the same as yours, oh valiant nazi puncher. Let those fists swing, but make sure they don’t see it coming.
All good advice that I follow
I wish it went both ways. I’m all for being able to say Nazis should be punched, even if I think it’s a stupid statement. But I also said LGBTQ politics should be kept out of Pokemon communities and got banned for that. Free speech for all or none at all
Until we have equal rights we aren’t going to shut up any time, any where. If you want LGBTQ politics out of pokemon you better fix the problems LGBTQ people are facing.
Better way to put it, until people can look at “LGBTQ politics” in the same manner as games they concider "non-political, we aren’t going away
No investigation, no right to speak. Homophobes should be censored.
You deserve it by grossly understating what Nazis deserve. /s
Violence against fascists is defense of humanity
Their ideology is literally violence against the vulnerable.
I mean, my grandfather would probably have said they deserved worse.
Yes, that is why I am here now. Got the ol’ perma ban on Reddit. Also rule 1 against Trump’s SS.
Also rule 1 against Trump’s aSSclowns.
FTFY
Thanks! Didn’t realize I misspelled it!
NAZIS SHOULD BE PUNCHED.
Nazis should be killed. :3
FYI the mods an .ml will likely do the same if you’re on their instance. I annoyingly can’t see the instance you’re on with voyager.
OP is on .ml, as it happens.
No, mods on Lemmy.ml will not ban people for saying Nazis should be killed.
.ml will only really ban you for being too liberal/right-wing. You can go as far left as you want on that instance, including calling for the complete systematic extermination of all capitalists and all of their pets, like the nazis.
Hello, I am a lemmy.ml user.
Nazis should be killed.
Reddit is a shithole
I got banned from [email protected] for calling out nazi sympathizers. Granted I did call them cunts, so YMMV.
Continuing the lie that calling out dehumanization being wrong is “sympathizing with Nazis”.
I specifically said Nazis are pieces of shit but still human and you told me I’m scum and to kill myself.
What an innocent fucking victim.
At this point anyone who isnt banned by at least a few .world spaces is a nazi sympathizer.
The person you responded to is a liar though. No one was sympathizing with Nazis in any way and they came in telling people to kill themselves. They were banned completely justifiably.
You would definitely say that. You haven’t ever suffered from the failure that is humanizing fascists. Humanzing them is sympathizing with them. They choose to not be human. Heck theyre proud to not be human.
It’s more insulting to them to call them human, as that implies youre on the same thing as them, something they objectively do not believe.
This is so stupid I don’t even know where to begin. Dehumanization is what leads to disgusting cruelty like Nazis engage in.
You do realize it’s possible to support the execution of Nazis and still think they are humans? Such a bizarre world in which that would ever need to be said out loud.
No, I personally do not think we should execute humans under any circumstance. However fascists are not human.
They, again, choose not to be. And as the paradox of intolerance states, we cant really accept them in human communities.
Dehumanization is something they voluntarily did to themselves. You cant even say they were tricked or duped into it. We’re in the information age. Practically all adults in the us have made it past 8th grade. They chose to believe they weren’t human like us. I’m simply honoring their wishes and beliefs.
This is just a semantic trick you think you can use to stay holier than thou and also kill people who deserve it. Doesn’t work that way. Humans can only become not human by dying and becoming dust again. Semantic tricks don’t change that. I sense this conversation will go even more poorly from here so I’m blocking you for my mental health.
And right wingers wonder why we dont engage and just tell them to hurry the natural process of decay.
