• don@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    Brought to you courtesy of the conservative voters and the apathetic voters, well known exemplars of mental acuity.

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      2 months ago

      Don’t forget the heroes who voted for Jill Stein. Because if you didn’t then you lOvE gEnOcIdE

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        Not loving genocide, but genocide wasn’t a deal-breaker. Which is completely insane, if you stop to think about it for even a minute

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          So you are saying “voting for a Democrat was voting for genocide” like the other clowns? Despite the fact that the only hope for Gaza was Democrats.

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              The history of Presidential elections in the United States. What convinced you that voting against the only shot at stopping or slowing conservative policy was helpful to any Palestinian (let alone the rest of the world, particularly American minorities)?

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                It seems to me that every president so far has taken the side of Israel against Palestine, regardless of whether they’re Republican or Democrat. The current genocide started under a Democratic president (Biden) who bent over backwards and even went behind the back of Congress to give Israel everything they wanted.

                So, what makes you think that the Democrats are the “only hope” for Palestinians? Jill Stein wants an arms embargo, something which Harris wouldn’t even entertain the idea of.

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                  Jill Stein is a paid Russian asset who only exists to take votes away from Democrats. It’s so obvious.

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          Yeah here in Ohio we had multiple state referendums where things like abortion and recreational marijuana were overwhelming approved by the voters. So the Democrats proceeded to say nothing anout how they were going to protect those objectively popular issues and instead ran a bunch of ads about how they are going to work with Trump on securing the border, then were shocked that they all got BTFOed in November.

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            I think this is the best take.

            The national Democratic party is a collection of thousands of smaller local Democratic parties. We’ve abandoned the local parties, allowing the corporate rot to take over the national party. We don’t need a new 3rd party, we need to take control of the local Democratic parties which already have the infrastructure in place to fund raise and run campaigns.

    • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Hey now, some voters are also oppressed by the US’s non-compulsory voting system. Some voters have to choose voting or makijg a paycheck. Some voters can’t vote because their work/school lets out after the polls close.

      Bottom line is that Republicans (and sometimes Democrats) have gone out of their way to making voting in certain parts of the country difficult. Make it more convenient, or compulsory, and we’ll see more representation than we do today.

  • Ex Nummis@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    This guy probably believes his blood is blue because he’s descended from royalty or some shit.

    • Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zone
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      Nah, he’d think his blood was blue not because of the royalty thing but because blue is actually the natural color of blood and it’s just built up toxins that turn it red. That’s why the royals had blue blood, not because they were just inherently better, but because they took better care of themselves unlike the peasantry.

  • TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    One of the key characteristics of fascism is machismo: a kind of hyper masculinity, and one of the characteristics of machismo is seemingly that a man is right simply by stating something confidently enough. It’s not about facts, evidence, or rigorous testing, it’s just about being the right kind of man and having the right kind of masculine energy. That’s why fascists are anti-intellectual, because intellectuals and academics understand that research, testing, and experimentation determine truth, not manly vibes.

  • WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org
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    He’s saying this so people think his ideas are crazy and won’t believe it when the feds and intelligence organizations actually manipulate society with technology.

    That’s his role in the administration. Its all a long con preparing for the social control coming next.

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      I think that you’re actually putting too much stock into these people. They are just nasty people being nasty as far as they can. Any planning is superficial.

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        From some of them? Yes. From all of them? No. Steven Miller, Steve Bannon, maybe Dr Oz, almost certainly Linda McMahon, have plans

    • Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org
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      mitochondrially challenged?

      I know you’re just memeing on his previous statements, but mitochondrial challenge is a real thing. Like inflammation, it’s something that’s real and causes problems, but is not remotely as common as claimed by quacks, responsible for remotely the broad spectrum of problems that quacks claim, cannot be treated in the fashion quacks claim, and cannot be identified as easily as quacks claim.

      It’s the grain of truth you build your skyscraper of a lie on to make it seem just a tiny bit plausible to people who don’t know better.

  • Siegehammer85@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Bullets also open the blood-brain barrier allow toxins into the brain, so are they going to be banned? 🧐

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      No. These actually do it mechanically, so it’s fine.

      WiFi obly does it in RFK’s fantasies, so that’s why banning it’s fine.

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        Maybe the WiFi affected his brainwork negatively, though in my equally uneducated opinion (compared to RFK), I just think there wasn’t enough grey matter to sustain it.

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    2 months ago

    Roughly accurate transcription it seems:

    Text of above

    [01:11:01] well, wi-fi radiation is, does all kinds of bad things, including causing cancer.

    [01:11:10] wi-fi radiation causes cancer.

    [01:11:11] yeah, from your cell phone. i mean, there’s cell phone tumor, tumors, you know, that, i mean,

    [01:11:15] i’m representing hundreds of people who have cell phone tumors behind the ear. it’s always on the

    [01:11:20] ear that you favor with your cell phone. and, you know, we have the science. so if anybody

    [01:11:27] lets us in front of a jury, it will be over. you know, we-

    [01:11:30] so what is the number? because a lot of people use cell phones.

    [01:11:32] there’s a lot of people with it. they’re glioblastomas. that’s the kind of cancers that

    [01:11:37] they get. but cancer’s not the worst thing. they also, you know, it opens up,

    [01:11:42] wi-fi radiation opens up your blood-brain barrier. and so all these toxins that are in your body can

    [01:11:49] now go into your brain.

    [01:11:50] how does wi-fi radiation open up your blood-brain barrier?

    [01:11:54] yeah, now you’re going beyond my expertise. but what-

    [01:12:00] there are, there are, i’m going to use a number here and you’re going to think it’s hyperbole,

    [01:12:05] but it’s not. there are tens of thousands of studies that show the horrendous danger of wi-fi

    [01:12:12] radiation. and-

    [01:12:15] so this is wi-fi that’s in this room?

  • HubertManne@piefed.social
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    There was debate into the late 90’s in the scientific community if hiv caused aids due to the rigorous nature of Koch’s Postulates. Even then it was just recognized not all the criteria were met. Later they proved it with a monkey variant. HIV causing aids. Not the crazy wifi thing.

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      Yeah, this seems to be the basis for all sorts of craziness. Something is sort of true at some point, latch onto some bastardized understanding and just never let that go

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        basically. I mean it was given some credence because the scientific community takes technical specifics like that very seriously but even then it was still recognized as unlikely that hiv did not cause aids as lab accidents had caused it. Its sorta funny I heard a guy give his talk on a paper like that in like 95 and looking it up in 96 the paper was written arguing we had proved it already by the criteria.

  • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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    You know, I can get behind the sentiment of MAHA. Fast foods literally killing people, and worse, making thier lives miserable. Healthy skepticism of big pharma is, err, healthy. Bring that on.

    Research into cell phone health issues is fine. The physics suggest it shouldn’t be an issue, but still, data is good.


    …But can we please take the quack medicine out?

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      The thing is, those same fucknuggets who clamor “data is good”, etc. in bad faith like this worm-host in the meme are the quack “medicine”…and their indirect harm to millions worldwide is going on wildly uncontested —much less punished. 🤌🏼🤷🏼‍♂️

    • SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      An issue with focusing too much on a single topic, is, “if you look for it, you will find it”. With enough time and effort spent, you will find a signal. Not a true signal, just one that appeared from randomness, and if you would do an analysis of all the studies, the signal would disappear again, but they’re definitively not beyond pick and choosing their studies

      Basically, this https://xkcd.com/882/

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            Yes, as your Wikipedia entry eloquently explains. Understood.

            But what is the actual “issue” you’ve identified?

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              The usual refrain that only ionizing radiation can affect DNA is valid for the far-field, where photons are “fully formed” as it were, and therefore e=hf applies. In the near-field, you can transfer energy efficiently at far lower frequencies than you’d expect. But that works well in gases. Not entirely sure how much effect that can have on a bag of water, ie you and me. But it’s there. Does that count as an “issue” or an issue?

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                Does that count as an “issue” or an issue?

                Do you think the science that’s been done to understand health effects from cell phones/towers have so far failed to account for the near and far fields?

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                  You’d be surprised. People think microwaves work by making water molecules resonate. And I’ve heard that from engineers and physicists. So they must believe that the near-field of low frequency RF affects liquids.

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      Agreed that there’s no such thing as “wasted” research. But there is no medicine to take out of the quack medicine. They’re quacks because they refuse to accept results of research on emotional grounds and just keep squawking the same things their minds are made up about.

      Focusing on problems that are fairly settled now because a 70+ year old heard they were mysterious and a problem at the age of six is so inefficient as to be regressive. Yes we should continue to research… everything but we should do so on the foundation of all the research available in <current year>, not on vaguely remembered tabloid scares from decades ago.

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          Faraday never told the prime minister asking what use his electrical party tricks had with, “I don’t know but someday you will tax it.” But it’s fairly un-intuitive that some weirdos arguing about Newton’s gravity equations not working in very specific circumstances would lead to precision worldwide location / mapping / guidance technology (Special relativity / GPS). Or that the abstract work in what atoms are and how they work would lead to incredibly dense handheld digital storage devices (quantum mechanics / SSDs). Seeing what organs could be removed from a living dog lead to the development of insulin.

          Limiting research to what will pay off in ~5-10 years is like only taking day-trips and wondering why you never discover new continents.

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            Sure but I’d argue an example of wasted research is someone investigating the harm of mercury caused by vaccinations. Again. After it’s long been settled. Overwhelmingly

            So part of the problem is it’s easy to believe some research is ridiculous, especially if you don’t understand it or don’t have context. And especially when there are politicians or lobbyists who find it profitable to mischaracterize or cast doubt. I really think the only answer is to restore respect for science, trust in whatever committee vets the research proposals. While that can be the road to wasted research, it’s much better than the current method of manipulated public opinion

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              “replication crisis”

              I agree that the utility of revisiting an already well-researched question is low, but I don’t think it’s entirely wasted. Replication and in particular failure to replicate existing results is when a team can learn good things, rarely a breakthrough, often just that their procedures need refinement.

              Absolutely there are much higher priority work to which public funds should go.

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            Oh come on. “Studying” 5G and anti-vax conspiracy theories is hardly in same league as the stuff Faraday was researching.

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              I mean at this point I’m not 100% sure I’m not talking with a bot that just responds to my first sentence.

              5G / anti-vax / etc. aren’t research movements, they’re justifications. Conspiracy “science” is not science, it’s (fairly fringe) religion attempting to use alternate language to appear more respectable.

              Stuff like the Netflix / Folding Ideas documentaries on Flat Earthers are still interesting for showing the application of ideas and how critical thinking is useful and how rejecting proof because it doesn’t fit your hypothesis, instead of adjusting your hypothesis, is farcical when viewed outside the lens of belief.