Ukrainian intelligence released an intercepted call from Donetsk in which a Russian commander threatened to shoot any soldier who tried to retreat, shouting, “Victory or death.”
Archived version: https://archive.is/newest/https://www.kyivpost.com/post/60938
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Those savages, right guys!
Many people think that propaganda means it’s a lie. Often it is, but propaganda can be true while still being propaganda. Which is this case.
So, yeah, obviously it’s a propaganda. Doesn’t make Russian inhuman shooting of their own troops any better.
How delusional do you have to be to ignore that they’ve done so throughout history and even did so in this exact war? This is merely someone giving the order, it’s not like we didn’t know they did it.
Russians shelling a group of surrendering Russian soldiers in September https://t.me/combat_ftg2/669
Literal barrier troops shooting retreating soldiers in 2023 https://t.me/combat_ftg/3020
Absolutely nothing fucking new.
NSFW obviously.
Country press-ganging civilians into conscription vans as unpaid cannon fodder accuses professional soldiers of being forced to be there 🤓
Something tells me you don’t complain about the Soviet conscript armies for the Revolution and Great Patriotic War.
I don’t like conscription as a concept but is not the one nearly universally justifiable exception defense of a society against imperialist fascists funding and allied to Nazism worldwide?
How shocking, who would’ve expected such behaviour from Russia?
Where’s the tankie who will explain how Putin is the good guy?
Ahem, awkctually shooting deserters is a gewd thing, because it teaches the liberal media to stay in line, therefore helping communism strive by giving the totally not authoritarian AI implants in Putin dopamine and thats a good thing.
Errr… /s
Did I do a stupid right? I don’t even know.
You didn’t mention US imperialism once. C-
Shit, sorry teach, next time ill do my homework during the day and not right before I go to sleep.
The Russian’s have been doing this since at least WW2 (where it was common). Not surprising in the least.
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"my source is fiction"
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“unlike those brainless tankies, I get my history from fiction”
Go lick boot somewhere else. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrier_troops
The 2001 film Enemy at the Gates shows Soviet Red Army commissars and barrier troops using a PM M1910 alongside their own small arms to gun down the few retreating survivors of a failed charge on a German position during the Battle of Stalingrad. The film misrepresents the role of blocking detachments in the Red Army. Although there was Order No. 227 (Russian: Директива Ставки ВГК №227) that became the rallying cry of “Not a step back!” (Russian: Ни шагу назад!, romanized: Ni shagu nazad!),[36] machine gunners were not placed behind regular troops with orders to kill anyone who retreated, and they were used only for penal troops. As per Order No. 227, each detachment would have between three and five barrier squads per 200 personnel.[37][38]
If you refuse to read your own sources, I really don’t know why you bother engaging.
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I didn’t post anything about Enemy at the Gates
