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1h unpaid overtime?? Explain? So much wrong here, and 1h is just 1h, but why would you ever work unpaid??
I think they are referring to a lunch break they are forced to work.
9-5 is 9h, so they probably work the whole time and don’t get OT for the 9th hour.
9-5 is 8hrs, you might be thinking 8-5 with unpaid lunch
Yeah that haha
Lose your job otherwise
“Work 1 hour extra or get fired” goes a very very long way to people that work minimum wage and can barely read, let alone fight a court case, my man…
not OP
I’ve had numerous jobs that had ‘unwritten rules’, such as being in, dressed, and ready to clock in 15 minutes before the shift starts. Being 1 minute late 3 times in a month was grounds for dismissal. It’s the old way that everything wanted to work.
If the job market is bad and managers are tyrants, you end up being soft-forced to put in more time.
If you don’t do it, you prob won’t get fired, but you prob also won’t get raises in hopes for attrition.
Working through the lunch hour, as someone else said, but I want to add that this is why you leave the freakin building for that hour.
Suicide seems better and better everyday
And then people are like… Parents need to parent their kids… for every kid related problem or issue, but look at how hard it is to find any time to do anything! It’s so hard… Keeping up with all the kids admin, school homework, developing bodies, relationships, future planning… And then having to learn about every new platform and emoji and movie so you know if it’s appropriate and how to handle it… It’s impossible! Parents need to parent their kids is such a cop out for a society.
I feel like you’re mad at the wrong side. Parents do need to parent their kids but obviously they need to be given time to do so. I don’t feel it’s a cop out I think it’s a muti-step solution.
I think they mean it’s a cop out for people to say “parents need to parent” as a solution. The solution is “society needs to provide more support to parents.” Parenting your kids was a lot more possible when one income covered the fiscal needs of the household.
This is it. Parent your kids is a cop out statement.
Don’t have kids if you can’t raise them well. Also, less slaves to feed into the machine.
That’s a cop out.
A cop out is when an adult skirts responsibility by saying “society is fucked, how could I ever be responsible for taking real care of my own chuldren??”. Again. If you can’t, use protection, don’t have kids. Society is fucked, yes, but adults must be responsible.
A lot harder to agree with this statement when the abortion laws have regressed so much so recently.
Accidents can happen, but if you use two contraceptive methods in tandem, it severely reduces the risk of pregnancy. It’s not impossible, it just needs one to be a responsible adult. And, obviously, we should be more vocal about sex education.
Time & resources would be good but I also think we as a society shouldn’t leave it all up to 2 random individuals who happened to have a child to ensure the healthy survival of humanity. You know what I mean? We all live together here, noone is an island, noone can do it all.
Yes! If society wants any firefighters, teachers, doctors, artists, whatever 30-50 years from now, parents and children of today need better community support, mental health resources, and better free education
🎵 Fitter. Happier. More Productive!
Comfortable. Not drinking too much.
Anon is just inefficient with his time.
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Fitter, healthier and more productive
A pig
In a cage
On antibioticsWeekends?
One day is spent doing chores, leaving you one day to do any sort of hobby. “Weekends” is a piss poor argument since most adults need to adult during that time.
Hybrid work has been great for this. I can step away from my desk for 5 minutes to toss in laundry or vacuum etc. Dust or unload the dishwasher while on a call. I no longer have to spend half of my Saturday cleaning because my house is just always clean.
It wasn’t an argument. It was a missing piece of the logic.
The analysis looked at a single day, but not every day looks like that.
Have kids, a dog, a house, two cars, and a white picket fence.
What are, “things that have been stolen from us by the ultra rich”?
Except maybe for dog?
WFH has been a blessing.
You easily eliminate almost 2h from there, no commute, and some workdays no showerp/getting ready to go out. Even when I shower I try my damnest to do it between meetings in company time.
I also do zero overtime, you’d be surprised that there are actually decent consultancy companies in that regard.
As soon as I got a taste of working from home back in 2020, I knew I was never going back to the office. I bought a nice chair and built a good computer, and now I just hang out every day while working when I feel like it. I’ve come up with enough shortcuts and workarounds that I can do my job over twice as fast as my coworkers, though I’ll never tell my boss that. I do have OT sometimes, but I get paid well for it, and still rarely have to put in a full 8 hours of actual work in a day, even when getting an extra several hours of time and a half. People look down on hourly pay, but it’s way better than salary for times like those.
You two have hit the jackpot apparently.
I got lucky for sure. A lot of my friends in the office tried to keep working from home after covid and got let go. I just happened to time it perfectly where I asked a little later, after the higher ups got worried they were letting too much of the younger talent go by being so rigid with the in-office mandate.
I thought for sure they’d let me go when they found a replacement willing to be in the office, but it’s been years and none of the new hires in my department have picked it up nearly well enough to take over my responsibilities. I think it’s settled down enough by now that I’m pretty safe with my work from home exception.
This is why I demand work from home.
I hate commuting.
Sometimes you can sit and cut vegetables and peel potatoes in a meeting… Which drastically cuts down meal prep time, I find.
Just don’t be like the guy at my job loading your dishwasher with your mic unmuted.
When you’re crying about the 10th Teams Meeting that week you can blame the onions.
From 2020 to 2025 I worked maybe two hours a day while remote. Made millions for my company but I didn’t have to work continuously through out the day. It was a nice existence. Went through two layoffs in that time but I finally had to take a job in an actual work environment.
In Asia it’s even worse. Standard work day in China for example is 9-9-6 which 9am to 9pm six days a week - remember that next time you see China living in 2070 propaganda. Six days a week is still de facto standard in most Asian countries.
The best part is that the actual work output is actually worse than five day 9-5 but I guess you have to keep the masses too busy for self awareness even if it costs economically. I’d remote contract with many teams in Shenzen, Tokyo and Hochiminh city and its incredibly how little actual work they get done with these crazy hours and its not due to lack of employee skill. It’s stupid.
Bruh, I worked in Taiwan for a while. Those hours are insane but most of the time you’re just sitting around or doing busy work. Tasks that I would do in a day would take me about a week in Taiwan because of all the meetings and dinners that got shoved in between. If you work in Asia I hope you like your colleagues because they’re basically your family and friends.
The 996 in China is far from standard, it’s prominent mainly in the informatics/electronics sector, and it doesn’t exist in the public sector as it’s technically illegal afaik, just not prosecuted. Also, there’s increasing pushback in China against it, and it’s diminishing in scope.
You’re right and I’ve edited that my pov is from tech side after posting but for some reason edit didn’t confirm. Can’t really comment on areas as I work in software but it’s technically illegal everywhere including less developed asian countries but no one is actually enforcing this unfortunately.
My south American garbage wasteland city needs one hour and a half of commute to reach work and another to go home
I don’t know if I would go home at that point…
But food, shelter and games :')
I can recommend being self-employed if you like super long hours for the peanuts. But hey, at least I don’t want to kill myself every work day.
