western leftists will never have my respect.

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    I generally don’t care about what internet anarchist talk about… They are insignificant. I would say they spend more time having beef with other socialists than building anything useful.

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    sub that bootlicks Stalin and the ccp

    Bootlicking means being servile to your oppressor, i.e. the boot above your face. Do they think Stalin and China are oppressing us?

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      I came here over a year ago after telling an IOF soldier to kill himself on reddit

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      Noticed the subreddit was banned, and couldn’t figure out where to find any info. Totally forgot that I even have an account on here… Oh well, I shouldn’t spend too much time on Reddit anyways. Maybe I’ll stick around here instead, it’s less likely to get reactionaries joining the conversation anyways, which can only be a net benefit.

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        mods who moderated r/thedeprogram will be posting updates and information in r/TankieTheDeprogram

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          That’s cool, though in all honesty I could really use some less reddit in my life. So at least to me it’s a blessing in disguise.

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        It’s funny because I was banned because I told a Zionist that all settlers are valid targets whilst he was denying the Palestinian genocide.

        Funny how no Zionists ever get banned for genocide denial eh?

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        Don’t you know the ukrainian communist party did a genocide against the ukranians just for being ukrainian? There was nothing else going on during this period. There were no external factors to speak of. Lack of industrial equipment, underdeveloped communication lines, crop failures, Kulak terrorism, western gold and oil embargo, all woke leftist conspiracies. Don’t look at export data from the time either, that’s woke lies as well.

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          fucking tankies, wokies want you to think Ukrainian nationalists and every other white nationalist should be fucking shot?

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    The Charlie Kirk incident really showed how many so called “leftists” in these online spaces are actually just closet liberals. I would say the number is about 90%. It’s very clear that the vast majority of Americans do not give a fuck about anyone’s suffering unless it either affects them personally or offends their precious sensibilities. They harbor a sort of Bellamyite delusion that by doing absolutely nothing, they will beat the fascists and achieve utopia.

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      What absolutely baffles me is: how TF does anyone who purports to be a leftist say they don’t support tankies?

      Exactly… how does a socialist, communist or anarchist think revolution will happen?

      Revolution via the ballot box is by far the rarest form of socialist uprising and can anyone provide an example of communists taking power that did NOT involve violent struggle?

      I’m not advocating for violence but, pacifism as an absolute moral precept is a joke. If you listen to liberals, you’d believe that it was solely MLKs and Gandhi’s peaceful ways that brought about change. History shows completely the opposite, but is it any wonder that the West lionizes “peaceful protest” while strongly admonishing any form of direct action?

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        Exactly… how does a socialist, communist or anarchist think revolution will happen?

        “Have these gentlemen ever seen a revolution?” etc. etc. It’s all intellectual entertainment, and pie-in-the-sky wishful thinking, and lifestyle identitarianism with those types. They might as well be playing SimCity.

        Lenin’s insight tells us, the revolutionary society is a direct child of the revolution process. Thinking about a socialist future without focusing on an actual process that takes us there is utopianism. That is what makes “leftists” unserious.

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        Exactly… how does a socialist, communist or anarchist think revolution will happen?

        This is what I mean by the Bellamyite delusion. He essentially believed that the transition from capitalism to socialism would not only be peaceful, but natural. The people can just sit on their asses and wait until the capitalists are done consuming themselves. That is the ghost that haunted American progressive movements for the last hundred years. They don’t believe in revolutions; their ideal form of government is a momentary retreat from capitalism (i.e. New Deal era) or Nordic welfare capitalism, both of which are utterly impossible to achieve in modern US. These people have good hearts, but it just seems impossible to wake them up from establishment slop.

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          You are spot on.

          Also, the Nordic model is disintegrating in real time. Much like the new deal, any concessions won from the capitalist class can be rolled back or negated without a dictatorship of the proletariat.

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            Bozos are about to lose their universal healthcare and pension after their governments increase the NATO funding.

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    First i was offended about labeling all western leftists as counterrevolutionaries, but more i read comments and sources i see how this is warranted. There are too many liberals larping leftists, trotskyists and revisiniosts among “left” in wests. But don’t worry comrades. Luckily there still exists true marxists-leninists groups and inviduals in west too that are proud about being called tankie.

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    The privilege of idealism means never having to dirty one’s hands enough against the material world of fascism and colonisation. It’s being against the genocide without an ounce of real support for the resistance. In the face of such a dominant and destructive status quo such a neutrality and call for “peace” is effectively tacit support for the oppressors and their collaborators.

    We should never accept their liberal definition of peace will lead to the emancipation of humankind.

    Welcome fellow comrades.

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    SocDems are not your friends. Anarchists are not your friends. DemSocs are not your friends. Do not trust the liberals; they will betray you.