I really think people blow this crying about Orcs out of proportion, there was NEVER an actually interesting villain in this game whose reasons of being a villain boil down only to “I’m an Orc, Goblin, Drow or other evil race”. And saying a whole species is inherently evil effectively diminishes all evil they do because you are saying they never could choose not to do it, which reduces them to children who don’t know better. People should move on and stop flooding my yt feed with identical videos repeating the same points.

  • MotoAsh@lemmy.worlddeleted by creator
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    11 months ago

    Aren’t Tolkien’s orks corrupted elves, or is that just the uruk’hai (or how ever it’s spelled)? Either way, aren’t they basically cannonically self-selecting to be shitty? Even if there’s some lesser ork that’s just there, the fancy fallen elves have long since taken power for themselves and basically forced them to be shitheads. Or at least that explanation makes sense to me!

    Not to excuse the behavior. After all, shitty rulers come about all the time. It behooves any populace to dethrone nonrepresentative shitlords.

    • scratchee@feddit.ukEnglish
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      11 months ago

      Yes, that’s the in-universe story. I more meant he based the idea of evil industrialist orks on the Nazis, so I jokingly suggested the orks were self selecting the same way the Nazis did, but in-universe they are of course just born evil.

      • TheGreatDarkness@ttrpg.networkOP
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        11 months ago

        I heard Tolkien regretted making Orcs inherently evil and was thinking of replacing that with something else, but I cannot find which letter was that in.