No, the personal attacks, refusing to answer questions, derailing the discussion, assuming bad faith, withholding your true viewpoint (aka bad faith argument). These are all troll behaviors, if not intentionally being an asshole you are at the least communicating very poorly. You made a comment you knew to be inflammatory and continue to berate and derail people trying to actually discuss your point.
Seeing as you were the one to start in on personal attacks, it’s just another response to your disingenuous attempt to disguise your rhetorical shifting of the goalposts. If you think that my position that killing is morally wrong is “inflammatory”, then I don’t know what to tell you except that by my standards you are a very morally corrupt person. How you live with yourself is your business, but to try to brush aside legitimate discussion because you simply can’t defend your position is just childish.
Actually you first insinuated I was insecure because my views were similar to the IDF, which was my first hint you were trolling but I humored you because I don’t like to assume anything. But dang do you know your buzzwords well while saying nothing at all.
I don’t think I called you insecure, but why would being insecure be a personal attack? Or is this just another weak attempt to deflect from the actual discussion at hand? Anyway, your views are similar to the IDF as you’ve amply demonstrated, because you’re justifying killing people as a preventative measure against more killing, which is exactly what the IDF does. If you don’t want to be criticized for your inconsistency, maybe try thinking your positions though all the way before you commit to them?
Anything you say is irrelevent when you ‘both-sides’ this issue. The IDF is engaged in genocide. There is no comparison that can be made from that to the arguments in favor of killing Palestinians. To fight the IDF would be an act done out of love and defense for the children and other innocent people being killed by them. Killing can be hateful, but in this instance it is necessary to stop the genocide. Even if it was hateful it would be the justified and moral action to take. The IDF is not going to stop voluntarily, just as the Nazis didn’t stop until they lost the war.
You see, there you go again. You keep trying to find ways to justify the killing, but it’s all just rooted in your subjective perspective. The Israelis can just as easily say that to fight the Palestinians is an act done out of love and defense for the children and other innocent people being killed by them. They can say that it was necessary to stop the Palestinians from committing genocide against them. They can say that it was the justified and moral action to take. It’s all just rhetoric. Your rhetoric, their rhetoric. It’s just words creating justifications out of the air. You conjure a justification for killing them out of your rhetoric, they conjure a justification for killing you out of their rhetoric, and it’s all equally legitimate because it was all based in the same morally relativizing perspective.
You are denying genocide by ignoring the objective evidence, widespread and seen by millions, of on-going atrocities and claiming I’m fabricating justification. Personally I don’t know how such a person could live with themself in light of what we know.
Another attempt to shift the goalposts by putting words in my mouth. The plain fact of the matter is that you are calling for people to be killed and endlessly trying to justify that call to killing, and in my book that makes you a hateful, violent, and most importantly evil person.
I guess when you’re small-minded, asking for a little consistency seems like trolling?
No, the personal attacks, refusing to answer questions, derailing the discussion, assuming bad faith, withholding your true viewpoint (aka bad faith argument). These are all troll behaviors, if not intentionally being an asshole you are at the least communicating very poorly. You made a comment you knew to be inflammatory and continue to berate and derail people trying to actually discuss your point.
Seeing as you were the one to start in on personal attacks, it’s just another response to your disingenuous attempt to disguise your rhetorical shifting of the goalposts. If you think that my position that killing is morally wrong is “inflammatory”, then I don’t know what to tell you except that by my standards you are a very morally corrupt person. How you live with yourself is your business, but to try to brush aside legitimate discussion because you simply can’t defend your position is just childish.
Actually you first insinuated I was insecure because my views were similar to the IDF, which was my first hint you were trolling but I humored you because I don’t like to assume anything. But dang do you know your buzzwords well while saying nothing at all.
I don’t think I called you insecure, but why would being insecure be a personal attack? Or is this just another weak attempt to deflect from the actual discussion at hand? Anyway, your views are similar to the IDF as you’ve amply demonstrated, because you’re justifying killing people as a preventative measure against more killing, which is exactly what the IDF does. If you don’t want to be criticized for your inconsistency, maybe try thinking your positions though all the way before you commit to them?
Anything you say is irrelevent when you ‘both-sides’ this issue. The IDF is engaged in genocide. There is no comparison that can be made from that to the arguments in favor of killing Palestinians. To fight the IDF would be an act done out of love and defense for the children and other innocent people being killed by them. Killing can be hateful, but in this instance it is necessary to stop the genocide. Even if it was hateful it would be the justified and moral action to take. The IDF is not going to stop voluntarily, just as the Nazis didn’t stop until they lost the war.
You see, there you go again. You keep trying to find ways to justify the killing, but it’s all just rooted in your subjective perspective. The Israelis can just as easily say that to fight the Palestinians is an act done out of love and defense for the children and other innocent people being killed by them. They can say that it was necessary to stop the Palestinians from committing genocide against them. They can say that it was the justified and moral action to take. It’s all just rhetoric. Your rhetoric, their rhetoric. It’s just words creating justifications out of the air. You conjure a justification for killing them out of your rhetoric, they conjure a justification for killing you out of their rhetoric, and it’s all equally legitimate because it was all based in the same morally relativizing perspective.
You are denying genocide by ignoring the objective evidence, widespread and seen by millions, of on-going atrocities and claiming I’m fabricating justification. Personally I don’t know how such a person could live with themself in light of what we know.
Another attempt to shift the goalposts by putting words in my mouth. The plain fact of the matter is that you are calling for people to be killed and endlessly trying to justify that call to killing, and in my book that makes you a hateful, violent, and most importantly evil person.