You haven’t answered it though, I am actually asking, why do you assume bad faith? One of my goals in life in general is to understand different viewpoints. But I see now you deny there is a genocide ongoing, so of course any action would be wrong to you because you think this is just a typical war.
It’s not a matter of perspective, there is endless footage, documentation, corpses to see, to prove the genocide, and no reputable scholar denies Israel is commiting genocide. If you believe this is all a matter of perspective then you are choosing to live in a false constructed reality.
You see, you have made a lot of claims there that are completely irrelevant to the discussion, because your disingenuous rhetorical position doesn’t allow you to actually address the real issues. I guess I will now claim that you also deny that there’s a genocide ongoing, because you’ve said nothing of the sort and apparently making wild claims without any basis in fact is part of legitimate dialogue in your mind? Please get real.
The discussion was about whether or not it’s immoral or hateful to say “Death to the IDF”. You said the guy was hateful. In light of an active genocide, I’m saying it is the moral position to take, to hope for military victory against the IDF. All the details are for the purpose of elucidating this point. Even still, “Death to the IDF” means the organization, it doesn’t have to mean killing anyone. Though that’s unlikely.
The “real issues”? What are the real issues you are referring to that I am avoiding?
Oh, wow! Look at those goalposts change again! You really don’t see the irony, do you? Suddenly the call to violence is actually just a metaphorical call to violence against an organization that definitely doesn’t consist of humans who will die because of this rhetoric. I urge you to look into the concept of cognitive dissonance; I think you’ll find that it’s quite a good fit for your perspectives.
You haven’t answered it though, I am actually asking, why do you assume bad faith? One of my goals in life in general is to understand different viewpoints. But I see now you deny there is a genocide ongoing, so of course any action would be wrong to you because you think this is just a typical war.
It’s not a matter of perspective, there is endless footage, documentation, corpses to see, to prove the genocide, and no reputable scholar denies Israel is commiting genocide. If you believe this is all a matter of perspective then you are choosing to live in a false constructed reality.
You see, you have made a lot of claims there that are completely irrelevant to the discussion, because your disingenuous rhetorical position doesn’t allow you to actually address the real issues. I guess I will now claim that you also deny that there’s a genocide ongoing, because you’ve said nothing of the sort and apparently making wild claims without any basis in fact is part of legitimate dialogue in your mind? Please get real.
The discussion was about whether or not it’s immoral or hateful to say “Death to the IDF”. You said the guy was hateful. In light of an active genocide, I’m saying it is the moral position to take, to hope for military victory against the IDF. All the details are for the purpose of elucidating this point. Even still, “Death to the IDF” means the organization, it doesn’t have to mean killing anyone. Though that’s unlikely.
The “real issues”? What are the real issues you are referring to that I am avoiding?
Oh, wow! Look at those goalposts change again! You really don’t see the irony, do you? Suddenly the call to violence is actually just a metaphorical call to violence against an organization that definitely doesn’t consist of humans who will die because of this rhetoric. I urge you to look into the concept of cognitive dissonance; I think you’ll find that it’s quite a good fit for your perspectives.
It’s not as catchy to chant “Kill the Genociding Soldiers!” But that would have been popular too probably. Still not hateful.
Right, because killing is never hateful.