You say he was, and then post an article that concludes
it seems evident his religion was closest to pantheism
and then talks about how he constantly talked about god as this or god as that. Pantheism is not Atheism and the constant babbling of what does or wants as if it was fact he exists certainly isn’t either.
Then there’s “Mein Kampf” where Hitler himself talks about continuing “the work of the Lord”.
So glaube ich heute im Sinne des allmächtigen Schöpfers zu handeln: Indem ich mich des Juden erwehre, kämpfe ich für das Werk des Herren.
So today I believe I am acting in the spirit of the almighty Creator: By resisting the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.
This senctence is in basically every german history schoolbook.
A speech of him from 1927:
Wir müssen Gott danken für diese Gnade. (…) Gott hat Völker, aber keine Klassen geschaffen.
We must thank God for this grace. (…) God created peoples, not classes.
And a speech from 1939:
Es sei „eine Anmaßung, anzunehmen, daß der liebe Gott die Welt nur für ein oder zwei Völker geschaffen habe.“
It is “presumptuous to assume that the dear/good Lord created the world only for one or two peoples.”
“Der liebe Gott” is a german christian notion I cannot find a good translation for.
Spoken like a real Atheist, eh?
Hitler constantly talks about God, what he thinks he wants him to do or what would serve his (Gods) purpose. Hitler. Was. Not. An. Atheist.
Every attempt to make him a “not christian” comes down to “no true scotsman”, as you skillfully demonstrate:
he was preaching an extreme idology that did not belong to any religon
Good writeup man, but it’s still subjective because you may have proved what he showed, but not really what he stood for and believed inside. He lied about talking to god to comit horrible crimes then took his own life when felt surrounded. Every action there really concludes that he really believed that there is no god aka an atheist. Btw similarly I can prove to you that David Miscavige really believes in that Scientology spaceship coming at the end of times. I can quote him and show that all ot David Miscavige 100% belives in the narrative of scientoligy, while both of us we know this criminal scum indocrinated his followers with evil ideas for his benefit and that he actually inside does not belive in that scientology stuff… but thatwill remain subjective still. That’s why I know and think Hitler was an Atheist. it doesnt mean atheism is bad or that we should demonize atheists.
but it’s still subjective because you may have proved what he showed, but not really what he stood for and believed inside
A thing no one can do.
He lied about talking to god
Opinion with no base. One could say >subjective
Every action there really concludes that he really believed that there is no god aka an atheist
Thats both, opinion with no base and bullshit. Christians (or believers of any religion) do and have done horrible things. Being a christian / theist does not stop you from being a bad person. You want to tell me that Hitler was no true scotsman?
Btw similarly I can prove to you that David Miscavige really believes in that Scientology spaceship coming at the end of times. I can quote him and show that all ot David Miscavige 100% belives in the narrative of scientoligy
And thats all you can do, because you, just like me, can not tell what people think or believe.
while both of us we know (…) that he actually inside does not belive in that scientology stuff
I don’t. And I think it’s arrogant to pretend to know what someone believes when he states other.
this criminal scum indocrinated his followers with evil ideas for his benefit
Not a thing a believer couldn’t do. Actually a thing believers quite often do.
but thatwill remain subjective still
Agree.
That’s why I know and think Hitler was an Atheist
You don’t know, you just think. And for what we have left on the table to examine, you’re wrong.
it doesnt mean atheism is bad or that we should demonize atheists
Yet, believers commonly use the lie of “Hitler beeing atheist” as an example for atheists beeing bad people.
In conclusion, once again, a pretty wordy “no true scotsman”
He was:
https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/hitlers-religion-was-hitler-an-atheist-christian-or-something-else
Regardless even if he was a “christian”, he was preaching an extreme idology that did not belong to any religon.
You say he was, and then post an article that concludes
and then talks about how he constantly talked about god as this or god as that. Pantheism is not Atheism and the constant babbling of what does or wants as if it was fact he exists certainly isn’t either.
Then there’s “Mein Kampf” where Hitler himself talks about continuing “the work of the Lord”.
This senctence is in basically every german history schoolbook.
A speech of him from 1927:
And a speech from 1939:
“Der liebe Gott” is a german christian notion I cannot find a good translation for.
Spoken like a real Atheist, eh?
Hitler constantly talks about God, what he thinks he wants him to do or what would serve his (Gods) purpose. Hitler. Was. Not. An. Atheist.
Every attempt to make him a “not christian” comes down to “no true scotsman”, as you skillfully demonstrate:
Good writeup man, but it’s still subjective because you may have proved what he showed, but not really what he stood for and believed inside. He lied about talking to god to comit horrible crimes then took his own life when felt surrounded. Every action there really concludes that he really believed that there is no god aka an atheist. Btw similarly I can prove to you that David Miscavige really believes in that Scientology spaceship coming at the end of times. I can quote him and show that all ot David Miscavige 100% belives in the narrative of scientoligy, while both of us we know this criminal scum indocrinated his followers with evil ideas for his benefit and that he actually inside does not belive in that scientology stuff… but thatwill remain subjective still. That’s why I know and think Hitler was an Atheist. it doesnt mean atheism is bad or that we should demonize atheists.
A thing no one can do.
Opinion with no base. One could say >subjective
Thats both, opinion with no base and bullshit. Christians (or believers of any religion) do and have done horrible things. Being a christian / theist does not stop you from being a bad person. You want to tell me that Hitler was no true scotsman?
And thats all you can do, because you, just like me, can not tell what people think or believe.
I don’t. And I think it’s arrogant to pretend to know what someone believes when he states other.
Not a thing a believer couldn’t do. Actually a thing believers quite often do.
Agree.
You don’t know, you just think. And for what we have left on the table to examine, you’re wrong.
Yet, believers commonly use the lie of “Hitler beeing atheist” as an example for atheists beeing bad people.
In conclusion, once again, a pretty wordy “no true scotsman”
This is literally every argument Christians make in defense of their hateful ideology.
They really should change the name of the fallacy to “no true Christian”