• pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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    Hey guys, there is a lot of troll baiting in this thread. You’ve been doing a great job of not falling for it, so I’m not going to lock it. Newbies to this thread, check the times of when it was made and if it brings up the distant past a lot, those are good clues. Leave one comment at most to save everyone’s sanity.

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    Not sure who still isn’t getting this.

    There is a literal American traitor in the Oval Office. One who has flagrantly violated the law, and specifically the Constitution, numerous times.

    Impeachment is meaningless, as we’ve witnessed multiple times in American history. Impeachment is an acceptable process if the violation is minimal and not repeated. It’s a slap on the wrist. A warning.

    We are WAY beyond a symbolic slap on the wrist with no real repercussions. Impeachment is not a valid tool to use in a situation like this. At minimum, we are at the point where there needs to be massive protests like we just saw, repeatedly, until he is removed from office. If that fails, then there needs to be a general strike until he’s removed. If that fails, then he needs to be removed from office by force.

    If we can’t manage these things, we will continue seeing the degradation of our freedoms, the collapse of our economy, the destruction of our founding document, signaling the end of our democracy, and the hole we’ll end up finding ourselves in will be one we won’t see this country come out of for the remainder of our lives.

    It is time to remove this traitor and his treasonous enablers from their positions of power.

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    They had a better chance of impeaching him for Jan 6th for actual insurrection than they do this time. Why? Because there are so many legal loop holes with the War Time Powers Act and the 2001 Authorization of The Use of Military Force. These loopholes were used by both Bush Jr. and Obama for various justifications for air strikes so the precedent is already there. Don’t get your hopes up and chalk up it up political theater. It’s also a distraction from what’s going on. Thanks again to Twatter being that megaphone of “HEY LOOK OVER HERE!”

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    We haven’t declared war since WW2. Everything has been AUMF, which can be done within 60 days retroactively. As always, the government is checks and balances, so if Congress refuses to exercise its powers and let the executive do whatever, it’s a moot point.

    I think it’d only lead to impeachment if Congress wants us gone within 60 days and Trump refuses, continues without an AUMF, and then Congress actually had the balls to push back at that point.

    But if someone is more familiar with the legal processes involved here, please do correct me or add to this.

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      To be fair, Clinton did take advantage of an intern in a relationship where the power dynamic meant there could never be meaningful consent, and then he lied about it under oath.

      Two things can be true: it was a political hit job where they were just out to get Clinton on anything they could. But also, Clinton did a shitty thing, was caught, then lied about it.

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        LOL, compare to now having a convicted felon as president, lied about it, then already committed several crimes after being elected and keeps lying about it. Who cares about a blow job…

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        Cum stain? It was a full term pregnancy that gave birth to a big giant orange piece of shit.

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        Cum stains can be washed out of you get em soon enough, but this rag could be frisbee’d at a wall and it’d shatter at this point.

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    Then every president should be impeached. Dem leadership wouldn’t pursue this because they know it puts some of their own at risk

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      Every president that I can remember (starting with Reagan) should have been impeached and later prosecuted for war crimes.

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      What? Democrat presidents aren’t at risk of impeachment? You mean like Bill Clinton?! lmfao and they weren’t trying to do the same to Obama and Biden for their entire terms? But they won’t do it to the next one as long as Trump isn’t impeached for a 3rd time?

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    I havent seen the Dems fight for much of anything in a long time. I highly doubt they’d do whats needed to make an impeachment happen.

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      “hey buddy, you know how you’re the president of a country here, right?”

      “Yes I’m the most beautiful, fluctuant, prescient president of all time, so says the people. I don’t know if it’s true, but that’s what people are saying”

      “Uh… Ok? Anyways, how would you like to be president of a whole fucking planet?!?”

      “This is what the world needs, a leader to take it into dysplasia. Who else could do it but me? This new one world government and state will need a name. Well call it fantasia, and it will be wonderful.”

      “Sure, sure, fantasia sounds beautiful. We’ve already built you the thrown right here. Strap in, your sovereignty”

      “I’m going to turn this wasteland, into, you know, a utopia for all rich white Americans”

      “Uh huh” tightens seat harness “you snug Mr. President?”

      “Well I think you’re a loser because this is too tight. You’re fired, get me someone who can make this right.”

      “Oh I am making it right, sir, just give me a second, I apologize.” Leaves capsule

      [Starship explosion noises]

      “Fackin whoops”

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    You guys are funny… the top donor to several Democrat politicians is AIPAC. I’d venture to say at least 50% of Democrat representatives support attacking Iran on behalf of Israel. Blue MAGA has been obliviously claiming that people saying he shouldn’t attack Iran are Russian bots.

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      lemmy.world has the reputation of spinning around an answer and never getting to it.

      AIPAC is in charge of both reds and blues when it comes to foreign policy and even some parts of the internal policy.