This has to fall under the category of “never trust a statistic you didn’t forge yourself.” I’m confident without looking that the amorphous Western countries don’t all count suicides and attempts the same way. And for China you would have to trust official numbers or generate your own because the one thing the leadership does not like is looking bad in the international community.
The other question I would have is this ratio based on absolute numbers or per capita. The reason why I ask is that China has a massive gender imbalance, a blast from the past when the one - child policy was in play and millions of female embryos were somehow aborted. And here I would also assume that official population numbers may not be entirely correct to make the generally known problem within the country look less severe.
If there are more men in absolute numbers, there will be more male suicides, some of which one might attribute to the ripples downstream of that very same imbalance.
Whoever concluded this may have accounted for all the pitfalls in their study. And the result may be fantastically accurate. But we oughta be careful and keep more than just a few grains of salt handy when we hear about something like this.
it’s about “success” rate. Man, mostly choose more lethal form like guns, while women often choose pills. Women acctualt make most attempts than man, but are more often rescued.
I suspect in China there are cultural reason that unify the “preferred method off atempt”
It does not address the question at the core: who counted what and how? Even if we accepted it as given that men were more effective in the suicide department, which may very well be backed by all individual studies, that would not make international comparisons, the like we see in the title, any more reliable. I did not see a source for this TIL and that’s why I’m throwing heaps of salt on it.
I’m not trying to invalidate your point. I’m adding to it. It’s one more reason why this TIL don’t tell US anything useful. It nither ralible or unexpected data.
I don’t know if it is true or not. The book suggests Chinese culture requires women to sacrifice a lot for their family, such as raising kids, take care of husband, his family and her family. They are under immense stress and it is the norm for them just to bear with it.
This has to fall under the category of “never trust a statistic you didn’t forge yourself.” I’m confident without looking that the amorphous Western countries don’t all count suicides and attempts the same way. And for China you would have to trust official numbers or generate your own because the one thing the leadership does not like is looking bad in the international community.
The other question I would have is this ratio based on absolute numbers or per capita. The reason why I ask is that China has a massive gender imbalance, a blast from the past when the one - child policy was in play and millions of female embryos were somehow aborted. And here I would also assume that official population numbers may not be entirely correct to make the generally known problem within the country look less severe.
If there are more men in absolute numbers, there will be more male suicides, some of which one might attribute to the ripples downstream of that very same imbalance.
Whoever concluded this may have accounted for all the pitfalls in their study. And the result may be fantastically accurate. But we oughta be careful and keep more than just a few grains of salt handy when we hear about something like this.
Unlike western leadership, who love it…
Unlike other governments who are (more) honest.
Lol
A tankie from. ML, how original.
Tankie is when you think western governments are honest. A good reminder that the word just means “anyone to the left of the Democrats”
Lol
average dronie.
it’s about “success” rate. Man, mostly choose more lethal form like guns, while women often choose pills. Women acctualt make most attempts than man, but are more often rescued.
I suspect in China there are cultural reason that unify the “preferred method off atempt”
It does not address the question at the core: who counted what and how? Even if we accepted it as given that men were more effective in the suicide department, which may very well be backed by all individual studies, that would not make international comparisons, the like we see in the title, any more reliable. I did not see a source for this TIL and that’s why I’m throwing heaps of salt on it.
I’m not trying to invalidate your point. I’m adding to it. It’s one more reason why this TIL don’t tell US anything useful. It nither ralible or unexpected data.
I don’t know if it is true or not. The book suggests Chinese culture requires women to sacrifice a lot for their family, such as raising kids, take care of husband, his family and her family. They are under immense stress and it is the norm for them just to bear with it.
Probably it is true.