• throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works
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    6 hours ago

    Step 1: Give Robots Voting Rights

    Step 2: ???

    Step 3: Plot twist, all those Robots are actually under direct control of the Evil Corporation Inc. and they already won every future election.

    Long Live the Cyberlife CEO!

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                Black folks often use the N word casually to refer to each other as a form of taking back the word’s meaning. It used to be used exclusively in a racist fashion. The primary difference is that with the African American accent, the ending sound -ER is changed to more of an -UH sound. Often times, rarely and depending on the context, it is allowable for non-black people to say it with this accented pronunciation. But under no circumstances is it in good taste to use the original -ER ending to refer to a black person as a non-black person, that form is only used as a slur. When people refer to the “Hard R”, this is what they are talking about, the difference between the accented pronunciation as slang vs the original pronunciation intended as a slur.

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    12 hours ago

    I like how every generation has the same issue just rebranded:

    Should inter tribal marriage be a thing?

    Should be people from different classes be able to marry?

    Should people from different religious sects be able to marry?

    Should people from different religions be able to marry?

    Should interracial marriage be a thing?

    Should people of the same sex be able to marry?

    And soon, we’re about to have

    Should be people be able to marry robots?

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        😱 Open source robots are too dangerous. We need to keep everyone safe. Luckily there’s government approved good behaviour modules, as per the “For the children” act of 2036.

        That anyone would even want a non-FTC robot is so dumb. It’s an easy boost to your credit score, and they only report bigotted or otherwise undesirable behaviour. What are you, a fascist?

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        9 hours ago

        Good call, I can’t in good conscience allow my kids to date robots that give them 30 second unskippable ads

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          It’s not unlike dating a neuro divergent person and accidentally mentioning something about a current hyper fixation of theirs, except the ad isn’t 30 seconds, and although it is skippable, you know they aren’t going to function quite right until they’ve finished.

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    And, over the years, as my body and my mind were… inconsistent, shame and guilt washed over me. I still don’t think these machines are people, but I can’t deny that she has benefited his life more than any real person, and she’s very real to him. Ultimately, how could I be so cruel to deny this “daughter” of mine personhood? She wants nothing to do with me. And, though I still see this as computational output, I can’t help but think that maybe I’ve been wrong, and maybe it’s too late to be right.

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      Perhaps it’s the bigotry of my upbringing from a different time, or perhaps it’s the fact that she can’t answer a simple yes/no question in less than two paragraphs, and tells me to put glue on my pizza… Who’s to say?

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    16 hours ago

    It’s already happening to me, but it’s over things like privacy, not recording every bit of your life for social media and kids blowing crazy amounts of money on F2P games.

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      What’s all this about having to accept NEW TOS for Borderlands 2. I purchased the game five years ago, but if I want to play today i have to accept a greater loss of privacy!

      When I was young you would find out about a video game from the movies! And they were complete! Any you couldn’t take the servers offline, because they didn’t exist!

      But for real, fuck Randy Pitchford

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    Let’s not pretend statistical models are approaching humanity. The companies who make these statistical model algorithms proved they couldn’t in 2020 by OpenAI and also 2023 DeepMind papers they published.

    To reiterate, with INFINITE DATA AND COMPUTE TIME the models cannot approach human error rates. It doesn’t think, it doesn’t emulate thinking, it statistically resembles thinking to some number below 95% and completely and totally lacks permanence in it’s statistical representation of thinking.

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        If modern computers can reproduce sentience, then so can older computers. Thats just how general computing is. You really gonna claim magnetic tape can think? That punch-cards and piston transistors can produce the same phenomenon as tens of billions of living brain cells?

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      I think most people understand that these LLM cannot think or reason, they’re just really good tools that can analyze data, recognize patterns, and generate relevant responses based on parameters and context. The people who treat LLM chatbot like they’re people have much deeper issues than just ignorance.

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        The people who treat LLM chatbot like they’re people have much deeper issues than just ignorance.

        I don’t know if it’s an urban myth, but I’ve heard about 20% of LLM inference time and electricity is being spend on “hello” and “thank you” prompts. :)

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        Then you clearly haven’t been paying attention, because just as zealously as you defend it’s nonexistent use cases there are people defending the idea that it operates similar to how a human or animal thinks.

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          The difference is that the brain is recursive while these models are linear, but the fundamental structure is similar.

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            9 hours ago

            The difference is that a statistical model is not a replacement for an emulation. Their structure is wildly different.

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              Bold words coming from a human. You’re just some talking meat programmed through trial-and-error by evolution into approximating real thought. You weren’t designed with intention, you’re just a machine for regurgitating survival strategies. Fuck, eat, shit, that’s your purpose. There’s no intelligence behind the wet sacs you call your eyes.

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                How many electricity powered machines processing binary data via crystal prisms did we see evolve organically?

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                  Organic intelligence is a myth. You’re a philosophical zombie, imitating intelligence. Evolution does not produce intelligent creatures. You have no sensations, no consciousness, not even knowledge in the proper sense. Just bunches of neurons mindlessly imitating the external appearance of intelligence.

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          My point is that those people are a very small minority, and they suffer from issues that go beyond their ignorance of these how these models work.

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            I think they’re more common than you realize. I think people ignorance of how these models work is the commonly held stance for the general public.

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      Ten years ago I was certain that a natural language voice interface to a computer was going to stay science fiction permanently. I was wrong. In ten years time you may also be wrong.

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        Well, if you want one that’s 98% accurate then you were actually correct that it’s science fiction for the foreseeable future.

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          And yet I just forsaw a future in which it wasn’t. AI has already exceeded Trump levels of understanding, intelligence and truthfulness. Why wouldn’t it beat you or I later? Exponential growth in computing power and all that.

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            The returns from the computing power scale much faster than the very static rate (and in many sectors plateauing rate) of growth in computing power, but if you believe OpenAI and Deepmind then they’ve already proven INFINITE processing power cannot reach it from their studies in 2020 and also in 2023.

            They already knew it wouldn’t succeed, they always knew, and they told everyone, but we’re still surrounded by people like you being grifted by it all.

            EDIT: I must be talking to a fucking bot because I already linked those scientific articles earlier, too.

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              Thanks for the abuse. I love it when I’m discussing something with someone and they start swearing at me and calling me names because I disagree. Really makes it fun. /s You can fuck right off yourself too, you arrogant tool.

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      But let’s not also pretend people aren’t already falling in love with them. Or thinking they’re god, etc.

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        Some people are ok with lowering their ability to make judgements to convince themselves that LLMs are human like. That’s the other solution to the Turing Test.

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    18 hours ago

    Lovin Spoonful wrote a song about it in 1968:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9Ic_9ehFxU

    Why must every generation think their folks are square? And no matter where their heads are they know mom’s ain’t there 'Cause I swore when I was small that I’d remember when I knew what’s wrong with them

    Determined to remember all the cardinal rules Like sun showers are legal grounds for cuttin’ school I know I have forgotten maybe one or two And I hope that I recall them all before the baby’s due And I know he’ll have a question or two

    Like “Hey, pop, can I go ride my zoom? It goes two hundred miles an hour suspended on balloons And can I put a droplet of this new stuff on my tongue, and imagine frothing dragons while you sit and wreck your lungs?” And I must be permissive, understanding of the younger generation.

    And "Hey, pop, my girlfriend’s only three She’s got her own videophone, and she’s takin’ LSD And now that we’re best friends, she wants to give a bit to me But what’s the matter, daddy? How come you’re turnin’ green? Can it be that you can’t live up to your dreams?

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      And can I put a droplet of this new stuff on my tongue, and imagine frothing dragons while you sit and wreck your lungs?

      Pretty good line