• nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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    @HiddenLayer555 This is a messed up era. When I was a kid from kindergarten and up I walked to school alone. It wasn’t a super long distance, about six blocks each way but it was unsupervised, and that was the norm back then. What has happened that it has become so dangerous that kids need to be bussed to school even if they’re three blocks from the school?

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      Car-centric society has made it damn near impossible to walk.

      Those six blocks you used to walk have all had their lanes widened into stroads, one converted into a thoroughfare, and no attention was given to pedestrian infrastructure so crosswalks, sidewalks or bike paths are almost non-existent unless you’re within 2 blocks of the school.

      We have literally built most of our cities, or redesigned older cities that used to be pedestrian friendly and walkable, into a wasteland of asphalt and concrete designed exclusively for personal vehicles.

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              That sounds expensive. How many roads have such bike lanes? Hypothetically, if you wanted to replace a trip to the grocery store, how useful would they be?

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                @ebolapie They aren’t. It’s hard carrying six bags of groceries on a bicycle and not going to waste time and energy going daily. Hypothetically it would get me within half a mile of a grocery store I don’t like, the one I do like is seven miles away.

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                  Given the right bicycle it’s pretty easy, but that’s beside the point. The question is why don’t people use bike lanes that seem pretty nice on the surface of it, right? There has to be a reason other than “bikes suck and nobody wants to ride them,” because in some places people go everywhere on bicycles and they love it.

                  So what, really, is the main difference between those places and your town, if it’s not the quality of the bike lanes?

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      Have you been to an American school recently? The elementary next to my house could be confused for a prison at first glance. It hasn’t gotten bad, if anything it’s actually safer than when we went to school. They have promoted a society of individuals ruled by fear.

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          In the home, mostly, yep. Outside the home is statistically safer now than almost any other time. Overall crime is down to historic lows.

          Ironically, at this point, and for the last 30 years in the US, owning a gun makes you more susceptible to gun violence. That may be changing, but I seriously doubt it since the cops are now public enemy #1, and have been since the mid '90s.

          Oh and before you try to defend the thugs with badges, they were declaring war on the public all throughout the '80s and '90s, by using yellow journalism and Hollywood to manufacture a “war on cops,” because people were rightfully questioning qualified immunity. It didn’t exist until Harlow V Fitzgerald in 1982. It shouldn’t exist at all according to the law as written and recorded in The Congressional Record.

          US cops have always been nothing more than glorified slave hunters. It seems that nothing changes in that criminal organization. The DOJ is still reporting that cops commit far more crime than all of the arraigned, but not convicted, potential criminals in the US.

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        @AngryCommieKender In my time you didn’t hear of school shootings. They just didn’t happen. So there was less need for the draconian security. My high school was open campus, and my Jr high we were at least allowed to leave during lunch. Different world today entirely. And I don’t like it because it conditions people for 15 minute cities and other forms of tyranny.

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          … it conditions people for 15 minute cities and other forms of tyranny

          Are you saying you think the idea of having all important services within 15 minutes is tyranny?

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              Literally nobody thinks 15 minute cities should mean you’re stuck in a 15 minute radius you dork

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                  Where do you think this has been implemented? I’m curious, because you’re the first person I’ve come across who was this take, and it’s novel to me.

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                    @silasmariner xford City Council have publicly stated that the 15-minute city concept does not involve travel restrictions and that traffic filters are not intended to confine people to their local area. If the “travel filters” are not intended to confine people to their local area, then what is their intent? Yea, to confine people.

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                    @Horse No I grew up in a time where we had relative freedom. If I wanted to go lay on the beach and enjoy the stars and the sound of surf at 2AM, I could so so, if I wanted to set off fireworks on the 4th of July I could so so, or pretty much any other time as long as I wasn’t creating a nuisance. I could drive downtown on any street. Now beaches are closed after dark, no more fireworks, kind of funny that we don’t have the freedom to celebrate our freedoms, but then the constitution may as well be used for toilet paper these days, downtown now half the streets are bus only and the other half are one-way. I don’t understand young peoples total lack of desire for freedom.

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              I was confused because it’s such a bad take… That’s not what 15 minute cities are about. That’s just the dumb conspiracy theories.

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              your intent is NOT clear.

              restricted in your ability to travel is totally normal and not tyranny. Drivers licences are smart, Pilot license make sense, dang are speed limits tyranny?

              15 minutes cities is just a concept that all or most of the typically important services citizens need to survive and thrive should be within a 15 minutes of where they live without REQUIRING a car. Modern car dependent culture is the tyranny if anything, and 15 minute cities idea is a response to that

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                @aeischeid For anyone capable of basic logic it would have been. Obviously having services readily available is not tyrannical, being unable to travel is, what other significant aspects of 15 minute cities are there? Do you really want your life controlled to this degree?

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                  I have literally never seen the idea of a 15 minute city being restrictive anywhere other than the ravings of Alex Jones tier wingnuts. Everybody who actually pushes the concept just thinks you should have a grocery store, a doctor’s office, a library etc. near your house.

                  Edit: and don’t get it twisted, nobody is saying you should be forced to relocate either, it’s a guideline for urban planning.

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          Same. I vaguely remember some shooting happening my Jr. Year of HS. I wanna say Bowling Green or Paducah, KY. This was before Columbine. Columbine was my Freshman year at Transylvania University.

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        Our most recent school levy addressed basically nothing but turning the schools into jails by wanting to hire a bunch of cops, install metal detectors and a bunch of other “security measures” and this is a rural small district, we have zero need for that stuff, why not propose paying teachers better, buying updated textbooks or funding after school care, something but I’m not and never will vote to turn our schools into prisons

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          There is a pervasive ideal in this country that has been a core part of it since the Pilgrims landed: Puritanical Ethics of “punishment is Divine, to suffer is to be Holy”

          Something is wrong? Punish the wrongness until it becomes righteous. If it doesn’t work then punish harder.

          It’s how this country has always solved its problems. Label the other as wicked then beat them into submission.