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🍹Early to RISA 🧉@sh.itjust.worksM to Greentext@sh.itjust.works · 9 days ago

Anon misses the classic design

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Anon misses the classic design

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🍹Early to RISA 🧉@sh.itjust.worksM to Greentext@sh.itjust.works · 9 days ago
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  • k0e3@lemmy.ca
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    9 days ago

    Anon is over-analizing the design.

  • Jimmycakes@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    Wood is heavy

  • Samdell@lemmy.eco.br
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    9 days ago

    they can pleasure you once

  • Drunk & Root@sh.itjust.works
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    8 days ago

    more expensive building a grenade with a full wood handle and all extra parts is more expensive then ball that go boom

  • 𞋴𝛂𝛋𝛆@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    forbidden drum stick

  • grrgyle@slrpnk.net
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    8 days ago

    What about one of those long spoony “scoop” type things that people use to throw balls at the dog park?

    • Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works
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      8 days ago

      The Canadians used lacrosse sticks in WW1

    • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
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      8 days ago

      You mean like a Jailai stick?

      • barneypiccolo@lemm.ee
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        8 days ago

        It’s called a Cesta.

      • trungulox@lemm.ee
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        8 days ago

        You mean like an Atlatl?

        • ᴍᴜᴛɪʟᴀᴛɪᴏɴᴡᴀᴠᴇ @lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Atlatl grenade training when? I’ll join the army I fucking swear just let me play atlatl grenades.

  • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
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    I doubt you can throw them further. Has a lot more drag and is less dense than modern grenades.

    • Raltoid@lemmy.world
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      You are seemingly correct:

      According to the British War Office, the stielhandgranate had a throwing distance of up to 27m while standing, compared to the 35m distance of the more modern and still used M67. Which weighs 30% less and take up 75% less space lengthwise.

      Even if you replaced the handle with something lighter and thinner to get leverage, the size difference is still a major factor just for carrying more.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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        8 days ago

        Why not an American football shape, but grenade sized?

        • wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          8 days ago

          This would make CFL much more entertaining

      • taladar@sh.itjust.works
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        I would assume the ideal design for distance would be shaped somewhat like a glider.

        • ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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          8 days ago

          Frisbee grenade

          • Raltoid@lemmy.world
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            Frisbee/disc golf players being drafted…

        • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
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          Yeah but completely unpredictable which is the most important variable. Wouldnt want the wind to carry it back into your trench.

  • barneypiccolo@lemm.ee
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    The traditional hand grenade became the standard for the American military because American soldiers grew up playing baseball, and were extremely accurate throwing grenades the same way. American Baseball gave American soldiers an advantage that European and Asian militaries didn’t have.

  • dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee
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    I’ve been playing a good amount of disc golf lately. Why not a disc shape?

    • With proper training, it can be thrown over 100 meters.
    • It can curve around corners.
    • It’s fun.
    • It will definitelly hit the very first tree in your path and kill you.
    • it stacks nicely in a backpack.
    • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
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      8 days ago

      No. 4 is proof that you really are a disc golfer.

    • sowitzer@lemm.ee
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      7 days ago

      Add some LEDs and feel like you’re playing Tron instead of killing people.

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      Stacks nicely in a backpack? You know how much crap goes in a medium ruck? How’s Jenkins gonna find my stash of disk nades under my spare ammo and ‘field stripped’ MREs? No, I need my grenades quick access, on my chest next to the repurposed saw pouch full of rip-its.

      • dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee
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        Okay, but how about both? 2 discs in the backpack (or medium ruck if you want to be german about it) and a waist of ball nades. Then you have options!

    • Legume5534@lemm.ee
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      8 days ago
      • heavy.
    • BootLoop@sh.itjust.works
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      8 days ago

      Make these Bionicle disk launchers but military sized.

      • Generic_Idiot@lemm.ee
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        7 days ago

        Bruh bionicles were the shit I’d forgotten!

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      8 days ago

      You know how you can throw a frisbee at an angle that makes it come back to you in a straight line?
      An angle that you can easily hit if you try to throw out of a trench…

  • SnortsGarlicPowder@lemmy.zip
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    Long wooden handles don’t go boom. Wasted space.

    The grenade pouch has to be much longer to house them or the grenades are hung on a belt that can cause movement issues.

    Throwing a ball is about as easy as throwing a stick. So no point for the stick shape.

    Sticks don’t go as far.

    • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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      Throwing a ball is about as easy as throwing a stick.

      Yeah but the stick goes further because all the weight is at the end so it gets more momentum on the same throwing arc

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        Eh, the extra momentum probably doesn’t overcome the extra weight and drag created by the handle. People are comparing it to an atlatl, but you’re throwing an aerodynamic object with the atlatl, not the atlatl along with the spear.

        More than likely the biggest reason is just logistics, extra weight, extra space, additional steps in fabrication.

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          Catapult vs trebuchet. The extra rotation point makes a world of difference.

          Agree that the benefits dont quite outweigh the space issue though.

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            According to what other people posted, my argument seems to be correct. The benefits of extra rotation does not overcome the negative effects of adding additional weight and drag.

            "According to the British War Office, the stielhandgranate had a throwing distance of up to 27m while standing, compared to the 35m distance of the more modern and still used M67. Which weighs 30% less and take up 75% less space lengthwise. Even the Mk2( classic pineapple design) reached 30m despite weghing the same as the German one, because it was denser and more aerodynamic.

            EDIT: For anyone curious, the ideal shape among those used and weight for distance and accuray is apparently round and ~300g. Reaching a distance of (38.6±6.5 m) and an accuracy of of (6.9±3.9 m).

            https://doi.org/10.1016/j.apergo.2005.06.008"

    • ameancow@lemmy.world
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      Yah but how else will you advertise your secret fetish for fascism if you don’t get unreasonably hung up on a specific piece of WWII German equipment?

      • trungulox@lemm.ee
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        I dunno. Eating human shit?

    • Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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      Can’t roll it into a bunker or small window.

    • festnt@sh.itjust.works
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      but ball can’t give anyone pleasure

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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        Not with that attitude.

        • marzhall@lemmy.world
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          Yeah youse just gotta tie a string to the pin so’s it’s safe to remove

          • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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            Make sure to double knot it, you don’t want to lose it in there.

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        Just gotta add some strong string.

    • dogs0n@sh.itjust.works
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      Upgrade: Splinter attack.

      (Nevermind I saw someone elses comment:) Also i feel like I would be able to throw a stick one further, am I wrong?

      • ᴍᴜᴛɪʟᴀᴛɪᴏɴᴡᴀᴠᴇ @lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        I could definitely throw the stick one farther but I have a shoulder problem/disability.

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    They could make a stick that a soldier could put a spherical grenade on to help give extra range. Like an atlatl or one of those tennis ball launchers for dogs.

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      Like a Vortex football! They could even put those little whistle things on the sides so they make that sound while soaring through the air

      • KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Yeah, we did this, we just made them rocket propelled and called them mortars.

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      Balls go further than sticks. Theyre more aerodynamic for a start.

      Dont worry, the Military Industry Complex is all about killing people, so it would be using sticks if it was beneficial.

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        No he’s talking about those things where you can sling tennis balls with, the ball gets released and the stick is still in your hand. You can throw tennis balls much further with those things

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          “New” war tech dropped

    • Valmond@lemmy.world
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      Or a 7 meter long stick, just bob it off

    • wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Like a gun!

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    You can also easily string them together into a fancy danger necklace

  • bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net
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    Typical enshitification.

  • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
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    Someone must have tried a jai alai stick at some point.

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    They facist nazi’s that used them was destroyed. No one cared about the design of the grenades. Only the rockets and the jet engines.

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