When I say dead users, I mean ones who have been banned, suspended, or deleted (probably after they got banned). I see this so often when browsing posts, and it is so reflective of the problems I have been faced with as well. I’ll be scrolling through a post, and sometimes unironically like 50% of all comments have the stupid little profile picture with its back turned, and when I hover over it it has either been suspended or deleted.

I have been having major issues where I’ve basically been permanently wiped off the platform over some bullshit permaban and can’t get it appealed, and it is just shocking that so many other people are obviously just getting completely swept away by these same bullshit bans. How is Reddit going to survive like this? It’s to the point where any sort of long-term engagement on the site just seems impossible because soon enough the CIA-level, all seeing AI will catch you in its net and then you’re done.

Even if they miraculously change their system to not have the world’s most oppressive ban system, what happens to everyone who’s already been banned? Will a decent percentage of the entire platform just be fucked for life because they were on the platform at the wrong place and the wrong time?

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    [Reads all these stories]

    Wow, I’m glad I left during the API debacle. Getting banned for an unpopular good-faith post is so frustrating, especially if it’s about something important like Gaza.

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    I think you mean a virtual or figurative wasteland. A literal one is a geographical regionwith little or no vegetation or animals.

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        “Literally” literally means “as written”, or “in the literature”.

        To use the word “literally” to mean “in reality” or “in fact” is not that original meaning, but is literally - in fact, as well as a written thing - a figurative meaning.

        Language changes. There are plenty of words that are their own antonyms. It’s not sad, it’s inevitable, and the sooner you can accept that the sooner you can avert the fate of becoming an old man yelling at clouds.

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    Their algo keeps permabanning me if I use their Reddit app. I used to bypass it by using patched 3rd party clients, but I’m too old for that nonsense now. I just don’t post or do anything on Reddit anymore

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      And crawling with propaganda accounts.

      Check out any political thread or ones about ICE.

      I recently saw a thread about ICE where locals started to revolt and protest against ICE being in the neighbourhood. The thread is filled is “removed by reddit” comments and other propaganda account telling people basically not to rise up. Saying things like “They want violence so they can declare martial law. Don’t give them what they want.”

      Reddit deletes posts promoting standing up for their freedoms and leaves the ones saying bend over and spread your ass cheeks.

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    Yah I’ve been perma banned over what I don’t even know, and Reddit won’t even let me make another account, sadly there’s more users and specific subreddits there with relevant posts that I want to engage with but I can’t. I’m hoping this get worse and worse on reddit so that most of the current users jump ship to lemmy

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      Everything I’ve seen has indicated that it is spiralling pretty hard. It seems like it is just bots and Facebook level users now.

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    They banned and nuked all 4 of my accounts ranging from 8yrs to 2yrs old after posting this about 3 weeks ago.

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      Yeah, I was permabanned from Reddit, just for saying, “stomp Nazis.” After this, I deleted the app entirely. I had issues prior to this. Posts I had carefully written and spent time writing, were deleted for using the word “target,” and the word, “shoot.” Both posts had zilch to do with guns or violence. Saying, “oh, shoot” about a funny autocorrect deleted my post. All this censorship, but somehow right wing trolls were still getting away with being jerks to me?! Wtf! Now I think the app is the most heavily censored thing I have ever encountered. It’s unusable, it’s so censored. What am I supposed to do? Go back and say, “spank Nazis,” instead? At a minimum, it would confuse the message and at worst, I’d get banned for saying that. No, I’m mad at Reddit & I’m never going back.

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      thats such a miniscule reason to ban someone that it makes my silly ban seem reasonable

      I pissed off a mod on a large sub and got a ban for “ban evasion” (BS, i only had 1 account)
      I later deleted and recreated my account to change the name I chose when I was like 13 (I kept being called a furry) and forgot to block the large sub and accidentally sent a comment when browsing r/all

      at that point I was like 50/50 with Lemmy so I just hopped all the way over and it’s been about a year since :)

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        I kept being called a furry

        And obviously you’re more of a slimey, eh TriflingToad?

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    I’m banned from lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/piracy for being ‘capitalist scum’ because I commented in lemmy.world/c/technology that I didn’t want the Internet Archive archiving my content.

    Not quite the same as a Reddit permaban, but authoritarians and orthodoxy enforcers are everywhere.

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    Reddit’s started it’s death spiral. It’s all downhill from here. Try starting communities here that don’t exist yet and crosspost stuff

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        Lemmy is reddit on a little delay, we already have right wing activist mods causing trouble with zero consequence

        Good thing lemmy is decentralized then and no single person can ban you and make it stick.

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        There are always going to be bad people, but Lemmy will always be decentralized unlike Reddit. Technically you could spin up a new instance that doesn’t federate with the instances you are trying to avoid.

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            Yeah the Fediverse was built with specifically that in mind. Move to another community or instance, or create/host your own if you really can’t get along with anybody. If the admin of [email protected] is being a cock then just make your own [email protected] and come brigade everyone to go join that one instead. In real life Fediverse lore this has already happened at least once with the fracturing of 196. It’s an intended feature of the system.

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              I find it fucking hilarious how you phrase ‘repeated harassment by activist mods with the tacit approval of the admins’ as ‘can’t get along with anybody’

              Eat your block and enjoy it asshole.

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    What happens to everyone who hasn’t been silenced on that platform is hopefully they contribute to other social media that aren’t blatantly pro-fash

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    im permabanned poster redditshitposter58. i first started reading reddit when i was about 12. by 14 i got really obsessed with the concept of “shit posting” and tried to channel it constantly, until my posting process got really bizarre and i would repeat things like “amaze balls” and “this” in my head for hours, and i would get really paranoid, start seeing things in the corners of my eyes etc, basically prodromal schizophrenia. im now on antipsychotics. i always wondered what the kind of “bad” style of reddit humor was all about; i think it’s the unconscious leaking in to the conscious, what jungian theory considered to be the cause of schizophrenic and schizotypal syptoms. i would advise all people who “use” reddit to be careful because that likely means you have a predisposition to a mental illness. peace.

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    They’re going to try to push bot traffic, while keeping actual user numbers hidden. Then dump the stock before saying they banned all their users or someone leaks it. Personally I would like an investigative journalist look into their ban system and do a hit piece.

    The site 15 years ago was great, yes there was trolling, you could call people a asshat, but it was still a good site. Now none of that stuff flies, no joking alowed, it’s like msn comments section. They killed what made reddit great and it was never at the level of 4 chan incels. In fact there quite a few social causes that did some good, all that’s gone. It’s just regurgitated shit.

    It’s no small amount of people who have been permabanned and it’s happening more and more. Some of the oldest accounts are just gone. I gave up even trying to get around it.

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      I think you’ve got it. Reddit’s board of directors know what content they need to sell the most ads, and they don’t want to lose time and profit letting their unpaid employeesusers post content that doesn’t fit their vision. So they fire users who don’t produce the content they want, replace them with AI bots who do produce the content they want, and the product looks the same to advertisers.

      They’ve been doing this for years, of course. Summer 2024 was just an embarrassment of pro- Harris botting and manufactured consensus.

      And come summer 2026 I expect a massive ramp up in pro-Republican AI content, because we know which party can and will pay the most to manufacture that consensus next year.

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      I had my first account for a decade. My next two didn’t last a year. I don’t think I’ll going back. Lemmy doesn’t have niche communities really quite yet but for tech news it’s arrived

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    This is a bit funny… Reddit wiped any critical thinking from there few years back and the normies were fine… Then they came for the normies and there is nobody left lol

    Or some such thing.

    Anyways reddit is not a place for discussion anymore, reddit is where the stupid get their programming

    Same way fox news does with “conservative” boomer

    Fedi4lyf

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    Why is this surprising?

    There is a life cycle to social media.

    Reddit is approaching Myspace levels of out-of-touch. But that’s to be expected. Reddit sold out and went public corporation. That means everything that they do is 100% centered around making profit for shareholders. A board of rich assholes listen to the same tech assholes that killed off every single other media platform in existence. Why? To make a buck. To squeeze the penny so hard, at the expense of content, users, posts, subreddits, that the penny squeezes out an extra $0.0000001.

    Content is ruined, but who cares? Another nerd will come along and make another one. Businessmen don’t care about the content of a bunch of randos. They care about gutting everything and selling pieces of it off for as much as possible, then eventually selling it off to a control-freak billionaire.

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      So I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately Reddit hasn’t reached Myspace levels of dead yet. It’s still the 9th most visited website in the whole world, and I unfortunately don’t think that’s gonna change anytime soon

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        If anything, it’s growing and taking on a new audience. Reddit was semi-niche in the years before, and is now becoming mainstream.