• WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    8 days ago

    It’s not that I “can’t fathom” it as that I know that it’s complete snd total bullshit.

    Tobacco companies didn’t invent vsping - ordinary people did. And tobacco companies didn’t originate the idea of flavoring it - the same ordinary people did. We did it because we prefer it that way.

    And then years later, some bunch of self-righteous twats who know absolutely nothing about yhe actial history of ot come stumbling along and start blathering a bunch of fucking nonsense about the evil tobacvo companies flavoring juice to enticevkids.

    Motherfucker - I was flavoring juice myself when tobacco companies didn’t even know vaping existed - when it was just a handful of people on a forum experimenting with attaching homemade nichrome coils to modified flashlights.

    So don’t fucking presume to tell me what I can or can’t “fathom.”

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      8 days ago

      We did it because we prefer it that way.

      And then the people whose evils you’re screeching about monetized the shit out of it, specifically to hook children.

      Again.

      The industry is not “a handful of people on a forum,” anymore. Elementary schools have anti-vaping policies. The thing you keep calling people monsters for talking about, actually fucking happened.

    • GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca
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      8 days ago

      So, if can only assume that you don’t believe tobacco companies did the other things they did because North Americans were growing, drying, and smoking tobacco for thousands of years before those companies came into existence.

      Everything you described is what happens when niche hobbies become mainstream. That doesn’t mean malicious organizations can’t see the potential for profit and engage in predatory practices. And it doesn’t mean that something that wasn’t particularly harmful to society can’t become harmful when it goes from a niche activity to something mainstream and commercialized.

      Care to explain how your vaping experience would be lessened if the device didn’t look like a children’s toy? Or why they should be allowed to be advertised on TV? Also mentioned in those links, about 15% of youths vape with unflavored products. If they can do it these days, I’m sure you’ll be able to handle it, too.