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davel@lemmy.ml to Videos@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 month ago

The China They Don't Want You to See: Xinjiang

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The China They Don't Want You to See: Xinjiang

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davel@lemmy.ml to Videos@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 month ago
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  • bitofarambler@crazypeople.online
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    The decades-long occupation pretty much never works and just engenders more revolution, so I wouldn’t recommend that route.

    also, the “violent religious reactionaries” is a bit of a leap from the sheer volume of detainees.

    I think the violent ones should be dealt with much differently than the non-violent activists, but they are apparently treated the same.

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      The sheer volume being how many?

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      The sheer volume being how many?

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        absolute minimum is around half a million detainee in total (ccp numbers until 2019), and most outside estimates place the number closer to 1-2 million uyghur detainees.

        Bear in mind that this is not some static equation, mass detainment started almost 10 years ago at this point and has been occurring for a decade. with detainment ongoing and the CCP long having stopped sharing specific information, it’s going to be hard to get specific numbers past 2019(the half a million number) for years to come.

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          ccp numbers until 2019

          You keep dropping numbers like this without sourcing them.

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            you’ll have to look through the other comments for the sources, I’ve had to drop that same source like four times now.

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          And where did you get those numbers?

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            The xinjiang high people’s protectorate

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              Source that the xinjiang high people’s protectorate made all of those claims?

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                they are the source.

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                  Then provide it

            • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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              Source that that’s even a thing that exists?

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                https://web.archive.org/web/20240409125822/http://www.xj.jcy.gov.cn/jwgk/gzbg/

                it’s in Chinese.

                every province in China has a local government, so this is the local government of xinjiang.

                it’s very similar to having a state government in the US.

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                  Lmao so you lied by implying this was a separate government when it’s a branch of the CPC? Sooo…are they brave truth tellers or lying chinese communists?

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                    no, that’s all still incorrect.

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                  Where did you find your link?

                  Also I don’t see anything on that link suggesting what you’re claiming.

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      The decades-long occupatio

      Wdym occupation. Xinjiang (formerly Xiyu) has been incorporated territory of the PRC since its foundation, and part of China since (conservatively) the Tang dynasty.

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        that commenter was referencing Afghanistan, not xinjiang.

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          I see, thanks for clarification

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      Ok, so the violent religious reactionaries needed to be dealt with, but with a more nuanced approach. What should it be? What would be faster and gentler, but also effective?

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