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      9 days ago

      The economy is always the top issue in any presidential election. Most Americans will not want a leftist economic policy. It will certainly mean high taxes in order to pay for all the social programs.

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          To be clear, social programs are not “Socialism,” Socialism is a separate organization of the economy where public ownership makes up the principle aspect.

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              8 days ago

              I don’t really agree with designating social programs themselves as “right” or “left,” I think once you move outside the umbrella of Socialism vs Capitalism those descriptors cease to be useful. Something being paid for with taxes doesn’t make it anti-Capitalist, Lockheed Martin for example is quite right wing but depends entirely on tax dollars.

              That being said, I do agree that conservative media calls social programs “Socialist” or “Communist” to fear-monger, but I also think liberal media uses terms like “Socialist” for distinctly Capitalist economies like Norway in order to blunt what Socialism actually is and make it compatible with Capitalism, defanging revolutionary and radical sentiment.

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                  8 days ago

                  That’s too broad for both, even if people occasionally follow your usage. Feudalism was not Capitalism, but definitely had resources in few hands. In fact, Capitalism extended the number of wealthy individuals over feudalism. Traditionally, Socialism and Capitalism are seen as modes of production, the former based on public ownership as the principle aspect of the economy (such as in Cuba, the PRC, former USSR, etc) while the latter is based on Private ownership as the principle aspect (such as in the US, Norway, or Argentina).

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          8 days ago

          No, they like some social programs such as Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid but things such as free education beyond high school and guaranteed minimum income will require high taxes.

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              7 days ago

              Too much socialism is bad because it will certainly involve increasing taxes to pay for social programs. High taxes discourage people from working hard. Why would you work hard knowing much of your earnings would be taken away? Free education beyond high school would mean higher taxes not only to pay for the school but to spot scams. Scam trade schools would pop up which don’t teach well and pass students who don’t perform well.

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                7 days ago

                Socialism is not “social programs,” it’s an economic mode of organization where public property is the principle aspect. Further, higher social programs invests in a more productive working class. Finally, Capitalists don’t create any value, they exploit their wealth, it should be returned to the working class.