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    The problem is that so many of us INSIDE the US still sleep like that, especially the ones who match homer’s kind of “dopey white middle aged boomer dad who raised a family on a single factory job” demographic.

    I match some of those demographics, like the dopey white middle aged USAmerican dad raising a family with his one income. I don’t match him in other areas because I am an over-educated tech worker living in an old cheap blue collar neighborhood to make it happen in current day.

    I am extremely unhappy and embarrassed about just about every single thing that has my country is in the news, to say the least. It makes me sad and worried for the entire world. Giving a shit about other people while evil morons are grabbing power will do that to you.

    But for people who look like me and don’t follow what’s going on in the world or care about other people? My day to day real life in my local physical environment is comfortable and privileged as hell, and so is a lot of theirs.

    Combine that with our culture where a “successful” life is constant stress over the rat race and keeping up with the Joneses, so that you are worried about making the payments on your luxury SUV rather than whether your government is destroying people you don’t know while funneling your resources to people who already have 1000x more than you.

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    I wouldn’t get too cozy over there. We’ll just end up bringing America to you :) Sleep soundly

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        America’s best export is suffering. Right now we call them tarrifs.

        Thanks to closing down USAid, we gave up soft power.

        A coalition of the willing, ready to make the world safe for Democracy, like 80 years ago.
        Swap the beaches of Normandy for Chesapeake Bay.

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    It doesnt matter, america affects every one on the planet.

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        The US may affect the whole world less next year if everyone else works hard to find alternate markets, but it’s going to take longer than that for the rest of the world to totally detangle themselves from our mess.

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      Negatively. By stealing and hoarding resources? By destabilizing world politics? By driving and supporting war across the globe? Most earthlings are unaffected by these things directly. America is not that important.

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    When I was a dumb kid, I really wanted to come and live in the US. I managed to visit it twice.

    I will never ever go again. 🤞

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      Bro, man visited NY less than a day, after I flew over to Toronto as a child, genuinely the worst place I’ve ever been to, in so many ways, it was as bad as I thought it would be, calling it a concrete jungle is lowkey an insult to jungles wallahi.

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          Or a highly subjective snap judgement based on a tiny sample size. Like I thought I hated Toronto for years, but it turns out I just hated the financial district, because that was the only place I visited. There are still real people and communities in there – you’ve just to go looking for them.

          Same thing with a big country like the US. If you just stepped off of an airplane in New York and went for a walk, you’d probably be disappointed too.

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            My comment was abt NY, my bad if I made it seem like I meant Toronto, the NY visit was a stopover cuz of their proximities, I edited it to make it more clear. I loved Canada, especially Toronto, been Canada multiple times now, trynna fly back there sometime soon 🖤 🇨🇦

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      Last time I visited, I didn’t even need identification. I just went to get some peeps at the big store, and then went back home. I think I’ll leave it on that high note. US scares me too much now–I worry I could get trapped there somehow.

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            To be fair, a lot of Americans are very stupid. Living here is extremely frustrating at times…

            The larger issue is that many Americans are selfish and cruel, though. That’s why getting sick once can ruin our lives, and why working in this country can often be inhumane and awful.

            The pervasive lie here is that everyone makes it if they work hard. Good people believe this, and it’s a big part of what’s destroying us as a country.

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          This is your defence? LOL

          Only 29.8% of Americans cared enough to stop a known criminal with an authoritarian bent become the last president you’ll ever have.

          31% wanted it.

          1.1% voted for someone they knew wouldn’t win.

          38.1% don’t give a shit what happens. Possibly these people were purged from voter rolls and had their vote stolen. But knowing Americans, I’d happen to guess that percent is well below .5% of the non-voter segment.

          Pathetic.

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          No one said all. Don’t accuse others of ignorance when your reading comprehension is this bad. When people say Americans voted for this, it’s because they don’t let the 38% of non-voters off the hook for their passivity. Voting is a duty and their negligence led to this outcome.

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        About 30% of Americans did, and that’s the segment least representative of what average people actually want.

        This isn’t an “America bad” situation as much as an “Oh fuck, capitalism just took down America, who is it coming for next?” situation.

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          60% of americans voted for this. Because deciding not to show up to the polls to vote against fascism is voting for it.

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            Are you aware of how difficult/impossible it is for many Americans to vote? The GOP has dedicated decades to disenfranchising voters, and rigging elections via gerrymandering.

            That’s why this wasn’t even close… He won by a landslide, despite the popular vote being razor-thin. He also won the last election in 2016 despite the popular vote being lost.

            My country is severely fucked up at a governmental level.

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              And over decades, many of you didn’t care enough to vote those stains out. Here you reap the harvest of decades of apathy, laziness, performative “patriotism” and religion. Trump was an entirely predictable circumstance.

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              How do you explain the ten million voters who had no problem voting for 2020 election but disappeared for 2024?

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                Because voting got harder for those people in that time. Because you know, the government usually does something in the span of four years

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            I see this misconception all over the place and I can only assume it stems from not understanding the electoral college.

            You overestimate how many people live in swing states.

            Every non-voter who lives in California voted for Kamala. All of the state’s EC votes went to her.

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              The electoral college made 10 million voters who voted for biden in the 2020 elections sit home in 2024?

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            It’s not that 60% was “okay with fascism.”

            It’s that “60% of people have embraced toxic nihilism.” Shaped from years of scrolling, overdosing on dopamine, reading and participating in contentious debates on the internet that never lead to an outcome, reading clickbait headlines that stopped making sense years ago, going home and sitting in front of a monitor instead of going out with friends to hang out and just talk about life, of eating the most addictive foods and getting all manner of drugs over the counter to alter their moods, their feelings, their perceptions.

            We have everything to placate us and make us happy and it’s killing everyone.

            Many years ago I once sat with a local captain (like a constable) of a village in Southeast Asia. We were drinking gin and looking at the stars and he said “You know why gin here is cheap? And sold on every corner? Because as long as everyone makes their number one priority at the end of the day to come home and get drunk, you won’t get people coming together and forming groups, of protesting the injustices, of changing the system” he said with a smile as he tossed back another shot.

            Since then I’ve actually pursued this and have found evidence over and over how capital uses numbing agents to keep populations subdued, from the overt tactics well recorded and planned like the use of Opium in China, all the way through more modern places like Russia and vodka. And it works. And we have a lot more numbing agents around us now than just ingestible substances.

            In places with fewer numbing agents, people are still having kids, still throwing parties and looking forward to poker every night with their grown siblings, of building a new barn or getting together to open a new store, or instead of spending 12 hours a day getting better at Marvel Rivals, they’re playing basketball. Sure it happens here still, but it’s in such radical decline that we have a dictator in charge and nobody cares. This is manufactured nihilism and don’t mistake it for something else because that’s exactly what the numbing agents want you to do.

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          Capitalism isn’t coming for anyone else because of limitations that have been put on it by the peoples governments in other countries.

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    Dont worry if you dont live in the USA the USA will come to you…

    Or so the new native american saying goes.

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        No, not right now but its still not the worst place to live. The administration is doing their best to make it the worst place though.

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          It’s been less than 1/8th of the term. We have 7 more of these and some change to go. Saying it’s not the worst place to live right now is like noticing a little bit of gangrene on your pinkie and thinking “it’s not so bad.”

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          What specifically has the administration done to make it the worst place to live? Im curious.

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            You mean aside from attacks on trans people, immigrants, citizens who they suspect are immigrants, starting to make a list of autistic people (probably to put us in camps later), wrecking the economy, taking away entitlements to give to his rich cronies, and emboldening white supremacists and neonazis with his audible nazi dog whistles and general behavior?

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              Oh, see i don’t give a shit about most of that. If the economy is reflected in the stock market, according to my 401k at least, we are definitely on our way back and onto better things.

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                  Definitely a Republican 100%. I don’t believe that supporting the delusions of the mentally ill makes me heartless, it makes me honest and realistic.

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            Not the person you asked, but I have answers.

            A friend of mine depends on government assistance to get his psych meds because he is very very crazy, but he has been doing well for a decade as long as he gets his pills. The unstable rollout of DOGE created a temporary situation where it seemed like his meds would no longer be paid for, and the stress of it drove him into a delusional episode. That episode cost him his job, which cost him his housing, which has nearly destroyed his life in a matter of months. Now you have one more unmedicated crazy man on the streets until someone like me can find a way to get him help again. All that due to piss poor communication and giving huge power to a billionaire who has never worked in government before so he can take a chainsaw to any program he wants—a decision that even the administration seems to realize now was a terrible idea.

            I live on the border. I used to be able to cross from Mexico to the US in under 15 minutes on the average day. Customs was well staffed, and the process was orderly. Very soon after Trump was elected, they started spreading out the border patrol staff to have a bunch of them stand directly at the border line and check for passports and/or immigration documents—exactly the same documents they will check for 2 minutes later at customs anyway. This has led to understaffing at the actual customs checkpoint, and now it takes around an hour a lot of the time.

            One of my best friends is a trans woman, and now her identity isn’t even acknowledged by the President of the United States—a disrespect towards a citizen that should be unacceptable in a democracy.

            I can keep going if you like…

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              So, you feel like less handouts, a secure border, and not embracing someone’s delusion of reality are bad things? I totally support all the things you say are negatives.

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                I’m not even going to address the first and third points because we simply disagree, but you missed what I was describing about the border.

                It isn’t more secure, it is less efficient. They aren’t doing a more thorough check, they are checking exactly the same documents twice, and the first time they aren’t even scanning them to see if they are legitimate. They simply stop you and look at them which creates a bottleneck in the line and causes understaffing at the real checkpoint two minutes further down the walkway.

                This understaffing has actually caused them to not have enough people in the checkpoint building to man the x-ray machines, so it is arguably less secure than it was before. If I cross at night now, I no longer even get my bag scanned, which used to be standard procedure during the previous administration.

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                  Biden was known for his open border policies, extremely well documented. Everything I’ve read or seen on the news says illegal entry has slowed drastically under Trump. It’s OK that we disagree on the other stuff.