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      No visual alternatives to flags were given. (And that’s because there aren’t any. Flags will do just fine for 99,99% of the public)

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        I feel like this would be a good alternative:

        English

        中文

        Español

        العربية

        Français

        Русский

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          That will definitely work, but I personally think the flags are more instantly recognizable.

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    A tourist wanted since directions so he asked: "Sorry, do you speak American.’

    My buddy who can be a purist: “I understand American but I speak English.”

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      Years ago I had someone ask me where the exit to the building is. The building occupies a complete city block in NYC and there are many exits. Using the wrong exit could add 15 minutes to your walk.

      I asked him where he is was going. He got flustered, said “speak American”, and walked off.

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      On Oxford Street in London, a tourist asked me for directions to Edgware.

      At first puzzled by his interest in visiting far-off social housing and knife crime, I quickly realized by his accent what he actually meant and directed him to nearby Edgware Road.

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    Percentage wise, more percent of the population in England speaks English than in the US.

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    When I was visiting Paris, a tour bus we got on had a audio guide, the languages were all labeled with national flags.

    English -> UK flag French -> flag of France Spanish -> Flag of Spain Portuguese -> Flag of Brazil

    Even in Europe Portugal plays second fiddle for it’s own language

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      Brazil became such a cultural powerhouse, almost anyone in the world would recognize its flag. So it makes sense. But it’s funny because only Portuguese speakers would need to recognize the flag on that tour.

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      Use the flag of Scotland and watch the absolute madness in the online threads over everything from a single Wikipedia user, to Scottish English, Succession, Brexit, and so much more in just a few minutes.

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    As an Aussie it really grinds my gears that office defaults to American spelling. And even after I change the dictionary to Australian or UK english it still continues to insert ‘z’ into words. It’s colonise, not colonize!

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    Scottish people having to click on a British flag knowing it will display English (there is a perfectly good flag for England that people refuse to use 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿)

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      I think the Scots having to click on an English flag to read something would piss them off more?

      Or are you suggesting having a Scottish flag that displays the site in Gaelic for that 2% of Scots that know it?

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        I think you’re overthinking it slightly.

        • French flag represents the language called “French”
        • Spanish flag represents the language called “Spanish”
        • Russian flag represents the language called “Russian”
        • German flag represents the language called “German”
        • Portuguese flag represents the language called “Portuguese”
        • Japanese flag represents the language called “Japanese”
        • Korean flag represents the language called “Korean”
        • Chinese flag represents the language called “Chinese”
        • Italian flag represents the language called “Italian”
        • But somehow, the British flag doesn’t represent a language called “British”, but rather, one called “English”, despite there existing an English flag
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          See? This is why we shouldn’t use flags to represent languages.

          Go to Brazil, and I bet they use the Brazilian flag to represent the language they speak, not the Portuguese one.

          Go to Ireland, and you’ll see they use the Irish flag to represent the English language.

          In Switzerland, what flag should they use to represent Ladin?

          And what about Canada? They speak two official languages.

          The correct way to display languages is just their name or they ISO code. Using flags for languages is fundamentally wrong.

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            I feel like I’ve seen the Quebec territory flag used for “FR (Can)” which I found amusing as a US hick

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      there is a perfectly good flag for England that people refuse to use

      Well yeah, but these days, you say you’re English, you’ll get arrested and thrown in jail 😆

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    The whole concept of multilingual websites is foreign to Americans. There is only one language in their mind.

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    As opposed to everyone else when they have to click the US flag to get English language options

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    I wish there were some internationally recognized symbols to represent languages as distinct entities from their countries of origin, but the idea of trying to make some seems really unpopular for some reason.

    There’s other languages that have far more politically contentious flags representing them - at least all the English-speaking countries are broadly allies. Spare a thought for the Taiwanese who have to select a People’s Republic of China flag, even though the language is as much theirs as it is the PRC’s, or the large number of Russian-speaking native Ukrainians who have to select the flag of the country who’s bombing them and their families.

    The notion of a country owning a language is fraught with toxicity (indeed, Russia’s claim to vast swathes of Ukraine leans heavily on it), and if languages had their own flags we could sidestep the whole issue.

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      French has the fleur De lies which, although it was a symbol of French royalty is still used on the flag of Quebec and some places in Canada identify the French language option with the flag of Quebec.

      Realistically, the best option would just be a shorted abbreviation of the language in that language. Ex. Eng for English and deu for German

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        There is a set of ISO codes for each language, but it’s not catchy used as an icon, and are also implicitly Western-centric by virtue of using the Latin alphabet.

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    Languages and nationalities are not a one-to-one match anyway. What would you expect from a Canadian flag? French, or English? The USA has NO official language, so that makes even less sense.

    I wish people would stop trying to replace words with cute little images.