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The deal – which will grant EU fishers access to British waters for an additional 12 years – will remove checks on a significant number of food products as well as a deeper defence partnership and agreements on carbon taxes.
The UK said the deal would make “food cheaper, slash red tape, open up access to the EU market”. But the trade-off for the deal was fishing access and rights for an additional 12 years – more than the UK had offered – which is likely to lead to cries of betrayal from the industry.
The two sides will also begin talks for a “youth experience scheme”, first reported in the Guardian, which could allow young people to work and travel freely in Europe again and mirror existing schemes the UK has with countries such as Australia and New Zealand.
The government said it would put £360m of modernisation support back into coastal communities as part of the deal, a tacit acknowledgment of the concession.
Very pleased, but very worried this is another weapon in Farage’s bum-bag of horrors.
It’s not like “the elites have undone Brexit!” has to be true to be effective. It just has to activate the braindead “i just want are sovrinty back” subset of voters who fucked us all over in the first place. 😬
Brexit was money well spent as far as I’m concerned. Fuck the EU.
Money well spent by corrupt politicians engaging in insider trading that is.
Don’t worry. The papers are already on it, in their bid to put Farage in power.
The Brexit faithful will never stop believing and inventing new reasons it failed. Wrong type of Brexit. What Brexit did they want? Vera Lynn singing on the cliffs of Dover. Dying old men smoking in pubs. No muzzies. A flashback to a childhood without all the grotty bits they’d forgotten.
As expected, the Brexit faithful and the rightwing press are already at it: unacceptable, sellout, waiving the white flag, surrender, capitulation, etc. This deal could prove to be rather popular, so the outrage crowd may find their attacks fall a bit flat.
What are you talking about, “failed”? The UK is not a member of the EU anymore.
Yeah but we’re not exactly living in the utopian society that we were promised. If anything brexit has proven to be as disastrous as everyone who opposed it predicted.
The brexit voters are utterly unprepared to accept they made a mistake so they are casting around to find reasons to blame everyone but themselves. Clearly somebody did something wrong clearly there was some evil cabal intent on ruining it for them.
Have you looked at other European countries lately? They’re no utopian societies either. And things like the EU probably going to demand 34 billion Euros from Germany for not quite reaching the arbitrary climate goals the EU made up… make me very happy that the UK isn’t a part of those shenanigans anymore.
You mean the arbitrary climate goals Germany and all members of the EU made up.
The EU is not some nebulous org that doesn’t exist without it’s members. Germany was a huge part of the members calling for these goals.
As was the UK in absolutely everything brexiters complained about.
Nobody voted for the people sitting in lovely Brussels and making decisions that impact all member countries in all their different situations. It was good when it was still the EEC and meant to improve trading between member countries. And trading only. How we ended up with this monster of EU trying to dictate things like you can’t sell cucumbers which are curved more than X degrees, or banning incandescent and halogen light bulbs, and stuff like that… I don’t know. But I don’t like it.
Yep they did.
Every nation in the EU is a democracy it is a requirement.
They elect there leaders. Those leaders send representatives to the council.
And citizens elect mep that approve or reject council mandates.
At least in Germany you vote for parties. These parties then create coalitions which water down most of the reasons why they were elected in the first place.
The guy in the EU council is supposed to be the highest leader of each country. In Germany that’s the Chancellor. Which is elected by those parties/coalitions. You as a normal person have no say in who it’s going to be.
Same for the EU commission. You have no real influence on who’s going.
Then those parties/coalitions create lists of candidates for becoming MEPs. You vote for those lists. There’s no way to vote for specific people to go to the EU parliament. And those lists are basically suggestions as people can be crossed out or exchanged on those lists even after the elections are over.
I’ve no idea what promises you’re referring to. I’d be astonished if anyone promised that brexit would bring about a utopian society, that seems like hyperbole verging on ridiculousness on your part.
I’ve no idea what predictions you’re referring to or what disasters.
I don’t see how voting for brexit was a mistake. Again, the UK is out of the EU. Seems successful to me.
You know all of the promises that Boris Johnson the enormously deceitful individual gave. How he’d be able to negotiate all our own trade deals with India and Australia and suddenly those countries would randomly want to trade with us. Where did those trade deals go?
How are we better out of the EU than we are in it if our biggest trading partner remains the EU and therefore all of our policies and business practises have to be in line with EU requirements in order for them to accept our goods. What we seem to have voted for is to still be under EU rules but to have lost any ability to have an input on them.
You appear to be defining success according to your own definition so you can claim victory where none was achieved. You are defining success as it was done, yeah we left but we got zero benefit out of it.
Fascists never run out of stuff for their bum-bag of horrors; that’s kind of how they work. If there’s no problem they’ll make up a problem and keep making up problems until they win.
I thought the only upside of Brexit would be at least we wouldn’t have to hear from Nigel any more, and his millionaire man-of-the-people ways.
How wrong I was.