If you’re in the majority, you have the votes to be able to accomplish something with reform. It’s not like we live in a monarchy, reform is possible under our system.

If reform isn’t working to bring about your goals, either your goals aren’t popular enough, or they are popular but the people lack the will and organization to vote for them.

If the people lack the will and organization to vote effectively, they certainly lack the will and organization to topple the government.

My area of expertise is managing complex systems and change implementation. I sincerely don’t understand how revolution is supposed to work where reform doesn’t. No one has been able to give me an answer that doesn’t bill down to idealistic hope. How is this revolution supposed to be implemented, and why can’t we build the foundation for revolution while simultaneously using the tools we have for reform? Wouldn’t widespread support for reform be the best possible proof of consensus?

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    1. revolution is forced upon us because reform does not work or last
    2. liberal democracy electoralism is not democracy for masses; it is a pressure valve for discontent to maintain the dictatorship of capital
    3. when people allude to reform is working unfortunately it is at the expenses of the masses; in order to slow down the rate of profit reduction capital superexploits elsewhere and it is that surplus value that is used to subsidise welfare in ther west
    4. and even that took a revolution. What we consider developed in the west universally occured after the USSR October Revolution of worker’s - the birth of the workers state in 1917-1918. Westen workers then used the threat of that revolution to gain concessions for welfare - children labour laws, pensions, sick pay, women’s rights, universal healthcare etc etc.
    5. A certain faction of capital also saw the accelerated development of the USSR and understood to compete against this they need to invest in “human capital” to maintain longterm returns on profit
    6. and all this began to be rolled back during Thatcher and Reagan with the fall of the USSR in the 1980s leading to present conditions

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