None of this is accurate even if history started on Oct 7.
You are blatantly lying.
Jewish human rights groups and human rights groups all over the world as well as genocide scholars all over the world are calling what is happening a genocide. I’ll put more weight on their conclusions than someone who has nine bullet points of Zionist hasbara.
I’d say there is overwhelming evidence that this is likely genocide, but we can’t say it is one until the ICJ finishes reviewing the mountain of evidence against Israel
50,000 died of a population of 2 million (many of them militants). 2.5%, while a tragic loss of life, does not compare with the Holocaust where one-third of the Jewish population worldwide, and two-thirds of European Jews, had been wiped out.
If Israel is intent on genocide they aren’t very good at it. They could have wiped out ⅔ of Gazans in the first week after October 7 but chose not to. Meanwhile Hamas and Hezbollah to this day call for ridding the Levant of all Jews but cannot.
Many more lives will be lost by Hamas not surrendering but it is a sacrifice Tankies in the comfort of their Western homes are willing to make.
No 50,000 direct deaths from Isreali munitions were able to be positively IDed. The actual number of deaths was estimated at a quarter million mid last yeah, and is probably at least twice that now, based on comments Trump made.
You think a quarter of Gazans have been killed? Yes I would call that Genocide but your figures are fantasy.
As long as Hamas don’t give up though (which seems to be what this sub wants) we can maybe eventually get there but then it will be a joint effort by IDF, Hamas, Hezbollah, Qatar, Iran, ProPals.
you thought that 50,000 of less then 250,000 had been killed.
I said 50,000 out of 2 million.
So, genocide denial.
No, a denial of your ridiculously inflated figures which not even Hamas claims.
This is just straight up
admitting that Israel is doing genocide
Admitting that if you keep cheering on Hamas and Hezbollah, you are complicit in what might become the number of deaths you fantasise about. But I guess that is a sacrifice you are bravely willing to make.
A quarter of a million is more than the population of Gaza.
At least twice now you reckon? So that would be more than all the Arabs in Israel combined.
How is the war continuing if by your calculations IDF has already killed all Palestinians (including Palestinians who don’t even exist to make up your fantasy total).
50,000 direct deaths from Isreali munitions were able to be positively IDed. The actual number of deaths was estimated at a quarter million mid last yeah, and is probably at least twice that now, based on comments Trump made.
A quarter of a million is more than the population of Gaza.
No it isn’t. and if it was, then killing 50 thousand people would be killing an even larger percentage of the population than killing a quarter million…
So that would be more than all the Arabs in Israel combined.
No. It would be a quarter the population of Gaza. These are easily checked facts mate, not sure what you’re trying to prove by lying about them
How is the war continuing if by your calculations IDF has already killed all Palestinians (including Palestinians who don’t even exist to make up your fantasy total).
What exactly do you think the population of Gaza is?
Gazan civilians are not being “targeted”. It is Hamas and Hezbollah who are intent on genocide. I mean they actual say it - why not believe them?
If Israel is intent on genocide they aren’t very good at it. They could have wiped out ⅔ of Gazans in the first week after October 7 but chose not to. Meanwhile Hamas and Hezbollah to this day call for ridding the Levant of all Jews but Cannot.
Trump’s talk of “evicting” Gazans to Libya is disturbing. That would be ethnic cleansing.
Why do you think Israel didn’t wipe out the Gazan population already?
Let me present to you for the third time…
If Israel is intent on genocide they aren’t very good at it. They could have wiped out ⅔ of Gazans in the first week after October 7 but chose not to. Meanwhile Hamas and Hezbollah to this day call for ridding the Levant of all Jews but cannot.
I put it to you a fourth time: How come not even nearly the percentage of Holocaust deaths has occurred against Gazans? Do you think the IDF is that inept in their “targeting”?
If you keep engaging but avoid the question (like a politician) then of course I will repeat the question.
None of this is accurate even if history started on Oct 7.
You are blatantly lying.
Jewish human rights groups and human rights groups all over the world as well as genocide scholars all over the world are calling what is happening a genocide. I’ll put more weight on their conclusions than someone who has nine bullet points of Zionist hasbara.
I’d say there is overwhelming evidence that this is likely genocide, but we can’t say it is one until the ICJ finishes reviewing the mountain of evidence against Israel
50,000 died of a population of 2 million (many of them militants). 2.5%, while a tragic loss of life, does not compare with the Holocaust where one-third of the Jewish population worldwide, and two-thirds of European Jews, had been wiped out.
If Israel is intent on genocide they aren’t very good at it. They could have wiped out ⅔ of Gazans in the first week after October 7 but chose not to. Meanwhile Hamas and Hezbollah to this day call for ridding the Levant of all Jews but cannot.
Many more lives will be lost by Hamas not surrendering but it is a sacrifice Tankies in the comfort of their Western homes are willing to make.
No 50,000 direct deaths from Isreali munitions were able to be positively IDed. The actual number of deaths was estimated at a quarter million mid last yeah, and is probably at least twice that now, based on comments Trump made.
You think a quarter of Gazans have been killed? Yes I would call that Genocide but your figures are fantasy.
As long as Hamas don’t give up though (which seems to be what this sub wants) we can maybe eventually get there but then it will be a joint effort by IDF, Hamas, Hezbollah, Qatar, Iran, ProPals.
So did you, given you thought that 50,000 of less then 250,000 had been killed.
So, genocide denial.
This is just straight up admitting that Isreal is doing genocide
I said 50,000 out of 2 million.
No, a denial of your ridiculously inflated figures which not even Hamas claims.
Admitting that if you keep cheering on Hamas and Hezbollah, you are complicit in what might become the number of deaths you fantasise about. But I guess that is a sacrifice you are bravely willing to make.
A quarter of a million is more than the population of Gaza.
At least twice now you reckon? So that would be more than all the Arabs in Israel combined.
How is the war continuing if by your calculations IDF has already killed all Palestinians (including Palestinians who don’t even exist to make up your fantasy total).
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No it isn’t. and if it was, then killing 50 thousand people would be killing an even larger percentage of the population than killing a quarter million…
No. It would be a quarter the population of Gaza. These are easily checked facts mate, not sure what you’re trying to prove by lying about them
What exactly do you think the population of Gaza is?
Sorry. Brain fart on my part. I just woke up and wrote rubbish but almost immediately amended my comment however not before you replied.
And then tried to deny it when I pointed it out.
But why not double down? You’re all ready a genocide denier.
I deny that IDF is committing genocide, yes.
I didn’t double down on my bad arithmetic. I fixed it.
You need to read the definition of genocide. I highly recommend following that with the south African report to the ICJ
Gazan civilians are not being “targeted”. It is Hamas and Hezbollah who are intent on genocide. I mean they actual say it - why not believe them?
Trump’s talk of “evicting” Gazans to Libya is disturbing. That would be ethnic cleansing.
Gazans civilians are absolutely being targeted
See lavender. And the SA report
Why do you think Israel didn’t wipe out the Gazan population already?
Let me present to you for the third time…
Just because you repeat it doesn’t make it truth. You’re entitled to your opinion of the facts, but facts are facts.
Stop arguing the facts of Genocide that is being conducted with your opinion if if it is. Drop the conversation and move on.
Show me the counter facts then rather than ad hominem attacks.
Genocide — the deliberate and systematic destruction of a group of people because of their ethnicity, nationality, religion, or race.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/genocide
I put it to you a fourth time: How come not even nearly the percentage of Holocaust deaths has occurred against Gazans? Do you think the IDF is that inept in their “targeting”?
If you keep engaging but avoid the question (like a politician) then of course I will repeat the question.
Lemmy is supposed to be our sanctuary from schoolyard level taunts, not our sanctuary from views we don’t like.
Yes I remember in grade school being harassed by being called a liar after saying grass is blue and the sky is green.
I see you are only comfortable in an echo chamber.
Calling out bullshit isn’t being uncomfortable with other viewpoints.
Sorry not everyone has unlimited patience for fascist and/or genocide supporters. But thems the breaks when you hold shitty viewpoints.