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The former dictator was closely aligned with Russia\Putin so now that he has been dethroned and fled to Russia the USA is trying to get a foothold in the country. Everything else is just noise and BS.
Gaining a foothold by building a trump tower over there? Yeah, that makes sense
Yes, the former dictator was aligned with Russia. Now that they are dethroned the new leaders are trying to form positive relations with Russia’s enemy ,the most powerful country in the world, the USA by openly offering opportunity and financial linkage to the USA’s leader. The USA is always looking for new opportunities. So yeah it makes sense.
Why not building hospitals for syrians, why not gaining a foothold through other means rather than a hotel for trump? Because that hotel only benefits him, his family and his friends, no benefits for Americans nor for syrians. Sound logic you have there.
The Syrians have only known dictators. In that context this is how you win over new friends and forge relationships, plus it’s only a first step. It’s a good opportunity for the USA to increase influence in the region, make a new ally, and find new business opportunities.
He’s appeasing the people who put him in power and who determine whether he stays in power.
Why would he bother appealing to the American people? We don’t control foreign policy, and even if we did, the public is so fickle, ignorant, and easily manipulated that all it takes to get people to turn on him is a random unsourced tweet from a cryptobro.
Solve it like the French
That’s illegal!
My new conspiracy theory: Vance is a made man for the Technate, and the plan has always been to get him into the Presidency. Trump will be enabled to act as corruptly as he wants, until an impeachment succeeds. Vance will step in and fulfill Thiel’s program. Trump lands softly, and the Matrix is built.
until an impeachment succeeds
I found a flaw in your theory
dammit. I think you’re right.
All of those January 6th people who were freaking out about losing their country… where are they now? Hmmmm.
Fucking hypocrites.
Yes, I’m sure that the thing that will finally get Jan 6’ers to turn on Trump is checks notes lifting sanctions on Syria.
He forgor 😔
I really hope for once Congress does its job and MAGA actually fights him on this, since some have already been saying this is too much even for them.
Let it be on the record yet again that Trump does not have a luxury plane retrofitted with millions in taxpayer money - not because he refused the bribe, but because he was barred from accepting it. Refusing a bribe =/= Having a bribe forcibly taken from your hands.
Qatar offered him a plane. This post is about Syria.
What are you on about? Are you just reading a word or two in these comments and arguing with the first thing you come up with? Because I don’t see how else you could miss their intended point so hard.
It’s a pro Trump .ml troll who goes into every thread and rants about liberals and Democrats.
And? What does it have to do with the fact that “Trump has opened the Presidency up for business”? The plane is still a really important catalyst for the rest - it’s what signals “Qatar quid pro quo, then Syria quid pro quo, then somewhere else quid pro quo”.
Easier to cut the whole evil right at its root, where its most blatant, in order to stop the rest from spreading.
Because it demonstrates that you’re not qualified to speak about foreign policy issues if you can’t even keep two very different countries straight. Much moreso when you don’t apologize and own up to it when it’s pointed out, but instead double down and say, “So what?” because anyone can make an error, but it only becomes a mistake when you refuse to correct it.
This whole thread is full of people who were fully on board with funding Julani to fight Assad because the news told them Assad needed to go, only, they forgot they support him and saw a random tweet calling him a terrorist and only a handful of people were actually aware enough to remember who they support and push back on it. But you really took the cake, you really went above and beyond, by not even getting the country right.
If this is the state of the American public’s awareness of countries like Syria (and it is), then pro-US leaders like Jolani obviously can’t rely on them, who will turn on them at the drop of a hat because they saw a random tweet calling them a terrorist. But I guess they’re in luck since the public has so little influence over policy. So naturally what they do is appease the ruling class, through lucrative deals and bribes.
But who cares? So what if the post calls the US friendly leader of an unstable country a terrorist? So what if you mix up Qatar and Syria? So what if you talk nonsense grounded in willful ignorance because you can’t be assed to learn basic facts about countries the US has been fucking with, yet still expect people to listen to you? The important thing is, for a wonderful moment, you got to make fun of Trump.
First of all, not american, and me “mixing” them up is entirely another assumption of yours - which you are free to make, as I can’t control what you decide to think or how you interpret things, and that’s a-ok with me. I’m in fact considerably closer to Syria and Qatar. Secondly, this rather seems a personal and touchy subject to you, as your willingness to insult, dismiss and assume (ironically) indicates.
So I hope whatever is going on gets better, but this is where I stop engaging in toxic rants, regardless of what you may think of me.
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What? Where do I even hint that I would deny “that Qatar’s human rights are of significant concern”? Or that I am surprised that Trump is accepting bribes?
My statements on this matter have pretty much been: Trump openly takes bribes -> Trump should be held accountable -> Regardless of where the bribe takes place or from who it comes. And one commenter starts derailing it because “Hurr durr Qatar and Syria are not the same place”, while another goes “why are you denying Qatar has a human rights problem”, both of which don’t even come near the point I was making. Can’t we just agree what Trump is doing is wrong and not look elsewhere for excuses to nitpick and create chaos? Are the internet points for having “good obvious opinions” really that important?
Literally nothing to do with defending wrongdoing from anywhere or trying to justify it- which is just twisting words to make them seem like something else and go from there to create needless drama - which in turn is why I ignored the other commenter in the first place.
First of all, not american
Then my point is even stronger. If American politics are foreign to you, and you’ve demonstrated ignorance of foreign policy, then maybe try shutting the fuck up, not only about Syria and Qatar, but also about American politics.
No investigation, no right to speak.
You’re one of those people who doesn’t understand what’s being said but is convinced they 100% do. YATAH here.
Your downvotes mean nothing to me because I’ve seen what you upvote.
Like seriously, the fuck makes you think I care if you think I’m an asshole? 800+ upvoted this post, all of those 800+ people were pretty objectively wrong to do so and demonstrated that they’re completely unqualified to speak about foreign policy, so I’m not at all surprised to get ratio’d in the comments or get called an asshole for pointing out that they’re wrong. Genuinely, could not care less what any of those 800+ people think of me, this community has clearly demonstrated its ignorance and I’m not going to pretend otherwise and pull pinches just to farm upvotes.
Like, y’all call al-Jolani “a known terrorist” and then think your insults still carry weight when you call me an asshole?
It’s insane the amount of comments about him accepting and making these bribes while the entire government for the last 50 years has been bought and sold with lobbyists and business owners. It is like he is the only one and not the entire Congress is behind this behaviour…
You are right. But here’s the key difference:
while the entire government for the last 50 years has been bought and sold with lobbyists and business owners
A President enriching others who support him, while still wrong, is not the same as personally enriching himself personally and this blatantly. The US has always been like this and many would have loved to do what Trump is doing, but didn’t dare. Trump is merely a product of his country, and kind surprises me it took this long for someone like him to get his paws directly on this kind of power.
Instead of being a businessman currying favor with the President, he skips the middle man entirely and becomes President himself, to his own personal benefit.
But hasn’t it been the case in many things that Trump just does more and more boastfully what others were doing before more quietly and slickly?
I mean, look at the Israeli Genocide, were Biden was actively supporting Israel with guns and ammo (including sending 2000lb bombs which even the US Military won’t use “because they have a too large collateral”) but decorating it all with a bit of Theatre (“we’re talking to Israel about a cease fire”), or how students were already being violently suppressed by the police under Biden when they demonstrated against the Genocide, or the immigrant thing were Biden was already imprisoning and deporting the most immigrants ever (even than Trump’s first term) including separating children from their parents but it was all done much more quietly, or, as others pointed out, the Democrats having been on the take as much as the Republicans (who can forget Hilary Clinton getting paid half a million dollars for a couple of hours work to go give a speech to some Goldman Sachs’ traders just before the election, something which probably contributed to her loss), or the giant civil society surveillance apparatus as revealed by Snowden built-up and supported by both Republican and Democrat presidents.
In these kinds of things Trump pumped up the volume and tore down the curtains hiding what’s going on in the backstage, whilst not really changing the nature of what is being done significantly, just doing more of it and being loudly about it rather than using some florid language to claim to be doing the opposite as the previous ones did.
America had already been moving towards full-blown Fascism before Trump (personally I saw the giant civil society surveillance apparatus as a massive red flag, as that’s the kind of thing that Authoritarian regimes have, not Democracies),
But they did keep them straight, you’re just misunderstanding their comment. It’s a little complex but it’s not unintelligible.
Their whole top comment is a non sequitor.
… and no one should put all the blame on one man … he isn’t that powerful or persuasive
It’s a complicit government that had decided to allow this orange menace to do as he pleases because it benefits some wealthy owners.
It’s a lot easier to blame one man because it would remove the complicity of a large organization of people that are driving all this.
It’s easy to just blame the government. When the reality is there is an entire complicit class of voters voting them in
there is also the rest of us who don’t do anything to stop him and his regime.
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we do nothing to stop it. we are a cooperative society. if we allow this to happen, then the blame is on all of us.
What about those that have only recently learning about the anti-education trajectory from the Right? Or those that are oblivious but would oppose such trajectory if aware?
Am I complicit if I don’t know it’s happening?
if you don’t know it’s happening, you’ve had your head in the sand or spent too much time watching tik tok. there are no excuses.
Blame lies on the judicial branch for not putting him on the chair for his coup attempt and instead telling before elections he can do whatever he wants, legally.
the blame lies on every one of us. we know exactly what is going on, that the government is broken, and yet we do nothing. we are the last guardrails of this democracy. if we don’t do something, this is the people’s fault.
So they just SAY they will build this tower, not they are building it. What’s the chances they aren’t building shit but told our dumb fuck president this to get this done? I think pretty high. They can strimg him along, because they know he will be gone in four years either by end of presidency or death.
And that is what I don’t get. He is so easily wooed by stuff. The UK trade agreement is not great, but he flounts the high tariffs that the importers will have to pay. Someone dangles a picture of something shiny and he jumps. This is so weird
The UK trade deal is great because over here it was basically just reported as “the status quo has been maintained”, and then they just moved on to other news items. No one really cares about it.
Trump was going on and on about how America “has the best beef”, and how it’s unfair that we won’t take it, and this trade deal essentially means that farms will have to follow UK food standards in order to send beef (or whatever) to the UK. Since none of them will, essentially nothing has changed.
Right? Nothing has changed except the tariffs that are still in place and will cost the americans money. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.
Maybe trump just wants to fly a plane into it for revenge?
If this isn’t enough to flex your second amendment rights, kiss your fucking country good bye. We’ll be building a wall on the 49th
Seriously? You want us to engage in political violence because the administration dropped sanctions on a country whose violent, repressive dictator was just overthrown? Of all the things to go 2A over, you pick this?
The US invaded the Middle East though, so resistance was to be expected
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I find in endlessly funny that we’ve been screaming at the democrats to leverage Israel more to end hostilities in the ME without any real movement from them, but suddenly Trump is willing to say ‘fuck it’ just because the right people happen to be bribing him.
If the right people keep trump’s palms greased for long enough we might actually end up on the right side of history by accident, and if that’s not comedy I don’t know what is.
By siding with al qaeda?
Tell me you don’t know who Ahmed al-Sharaa is without telling me you don’t know who Ahmed al-Sharaa is.
Ahmed al-Sharaa is the guy whose dogs are massacring Alawites right now, mostly done with that.
Can I have my A for this answer?
You get partial credit for vocabulary but an F for misrepresentation
What he says is less important that what he does.
I agree, which is why I find it significant that he split ties from al-Qaeda despite the significant internal pressures not to.
I guess we’d have to wait longer than a month to see if he makes good on seeking justice for acts of brutality against Alawites, but I don’t think you can say al-Sharaa isn’t a massive step in the right direction and deserving of positive diplomatic response to his reforms.
I am just going by the meme, you caught me.
Props for owning up to it.
Someone posted a good picture of the locking mechanism called the “ratchet effect” that democrats/neo-liberals provide for the ruling class.
Essentially, Republicans get to do whatever they want to enrich our rulers, and democrats are there to stop the workers from reversing any of the gains.
None of this is for the United States. It’s all for him. The greedy little piggy.
This all reminds me of a conversation in Star Trek Deep Spaces 9. Season 5 episode 20
For context Quark is talking with his mother Ishka about the qualities that the leader, the Nagus, of their hyper capitalist society should have.
Quark: Of course not. He was willing to throw our entire economy into chaos just so he could grab power.
Ishka: Sounds like a true Ferengi to me.
Quark: A Ferengi, maybe, but not a Nagus. A Nagus has to be better than that. His personal greed has to reflect the public’s greed.
MAGA supports this.
Republicans support this.
