I don’t mind the posts and the communities, but so many of the users are insufferable.

They poison the well for any cool person who might be registered there.

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    9 hours ago

    Just make fun of Russia or laugh at them and call them a bot for saying “zionist” too much. They will ban you from hexbear, then you block them and never have to hear from them again.

    Yes, you could skip the first step … but where is the fun in that?

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      I kind of like seeing the posts tho, but the commenter are so hostile. like, is there a button to block the commenters but not the instance? that would be a nice feature to implement :D

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    Virtually any time I get viciously attacked by someone on Lemmy it’s almost exclusively someone from either Hexbear, Lemmygrad, blahaj or infosec.

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        I imagine most people here are Reddit refugees, and I guess being that principled could be seen as a kind of extremism in itself. I don’t really consider myself the most non-confrontational person either.

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      Infosec, really? I haven’t noticed that trend. Maybe I just wasn’t paying attention to the user’s instance enough. I absolutely did notice the others you mentioned, though, but that may be because there are more bad eggs than good in those places lol

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        4 hours ago

        I don’t remember having issues with anyone from there for a while but there was a time that there was several of them over a short period of time.

    • I’ve seen the db0 admins getting a little power trippy. Like instance ban for a conversation in a community on a different instance. Following all rules and being respectful the entire time. Im happy to respect the db0 rules and fedi sovereignty on their instance. I don’t think instance bans for off instance activities is right.

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      I mean, blahaj are understandably defensive; it’s a mostly gender fluid/trans instance and they are very much under the microscope right now. I give my trans buddies more leeway to be angry right now, they are going through a lot, and I assume the strangers on blahaj feel the same. It might be directionless anger sometimes, but that comes out when you are constantly under stress. But yeah, I understand what you are saying <3

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      11 hours ago

      Tell you don’t know what hexbear even is without telling me you don’t know what hexbear even is

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      I don’t love or watch hasan, but he cannot be as bad as voosh, surely? Like if you need to watch a big streamer, I’d see a hasan fan as someone with good intentions, but I’d be wary of a vaush fan; anything in the destiny orbit has stage 4 debatebro cancer.

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        12 hours ago

        they both have a hard-on for authorian regimes is all I mean. I wasn’t comparing their degrees of harm

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          I occasionally watch both vaush and hasan segments on youtube, along with many other lefitst youtubers.

          vaush doesn’t do debates anymore, hasn’t done one in… over a year at this point, almost two years?

          I’ve heard him explain a few times now that debating anybody with hardcore right wing views is less than unproductive at this point, as none of those people are any kind of capable of arguing in good faith, thus all you’re doing is platforming them.

          also vaush is routinely quite critical of authoritarian regimes.

          hasan, on the other hand, yeah, i agree, he has (at least initially? not sure if his stance has changed since) defended the russian occupation of crimea, he has platformed people that go waaay beyond being just anti-zionist and go all the way into general antisemitism, basically played defense for the Chinese government’s actions against uyghurs…

          he’s much closer to a tankie, and tankies are what hexbear has a whole lot of, those are the rabid posters and mods you stereotypically get there.

          So… I am confused as to how you would say hexbear loves both vaush and hasan, when … rabid hexbears basically are tankies… and would generally agree with hasan (or think he doesn’t go far enough), and despise vaush.

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          Sorry to bother you again, but I’m curious - what’s hasans hardon for authoritarian regimes? I’d like to know, I don’t want to advocate for that just because I’m not familiar. If you dont have time that’s fine, but I thought it would be best to ask instead of staying ignorant. :D

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            him calling the Uyghur concentration camps “reeducation camps”. also getting his news from Russian sources, like when he defended the Russia annexing Crimea.

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              12 hours ago

              jeez I never knew that. thanks for the info. Also you’re a blahaj user so on the off chance you are on a gender journey, good luck and I love you, I hope you find the awesome you that you are <3

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    10 hours ago

    I don’t really care where users are from, and I think it causes fractures and fragmentation across lemmy.

    In a void without enemies, we make our own, it seems.

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      If you don’t think the far left are your enemies, then you haven’t been sent to one of their camps yet.

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        Who’s supposed to be the far left in this scenario? It sure as hell isn’t hexbear with their unwavering support of both the Chinese and Russian governments.

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          The problem is they don’t stay blocked, blocking the instance at user level does not block the users, defederating leaves the loophole of their posts still popping up on all when an instance that aligns with them crossposts them, also they are constantly creating alts on other instances to keep spreading shit.

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      10 hours ago

      I like hexbear, I dont mind the posts, but the users are like rick and morty fans, they ruin it.

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    12 hours ago

    People keep on saying this but I haven’t noticed it. Am I just immune to being greatly annoyed by the delivery if the intentions are right? Show me where the hexbear touched you, OP!

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      11 hours ago

      Your instance isn’t federated with hexbear, you won’t see them

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        11 hours ago

        I’m sorry, I’m new to Lemmy. Thank you for taking the time to check, lol. Time to check them out and see if I’m annoying enough to fit in! 😅

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          you want nothing to do with these insufferable people.

          my instance is federated with them, but I have every single community of theirs I’ve ever seen blocked now.

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            my instance is federated with them, but I have every single community of theirs I’ve ever seen blocked now.

            Wait, we can instance block nowadays, why going through every community?

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            Thank you for your concern, honestly. I’ll still try and see how insufferable they are, although they asked me about animal liberation and GSM (?) on the application so I have a feeling you’re right to warn me, lol.

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        I’m sorry, OP, I’ve just read that a couple too many times and I truly wonder what the reasoning behind it is. Is it just American right-wingers complaining? Cause, whatever, America is going full isolationist so we only have to listen to them for a decade or so before they firewall everything and Lemmy goes full German, lol. Or is it something else?

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          The american right wingers comment was offhand and mostly a joke. like another user said, it was probably a bot. Or, it was a user I annoyed who is a mod on a small instance, and they banned me out of frustration. they might have even been right wing, who knows?

          Sounds like there’s something behind your comment, if you have a problem with anything I’ve said, just come out and say it.

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            Stop feeding the troll, for crying out loud. Look at their comment history. Look at the account’s name. Can you guess that they’re arguing in bad faith?

            Social media literacy died in 2020, I swear.

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              I don’t think they are a troll, I just think they are very poorly informed, and possibly stupid. But thenks for the headsup, I checked their comment history after reading your comment, I see how you came to that conclusion. “Never attribute to malice what can easily be explained by stupidity”

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              oh you’ve run out of things to say but you still want to complain? sorry, I’m not your therapist. one more dumb comment and I’m done :D

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        Isn’t Hexbear a leftist community? Aren’t leftists by default anti-imperialist and the biggest genocides in history and ongoing perpetrated by bloodthirsty empires? I feel like most people affiliated can’t be genocide deniers, come on…

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          They are very far left

          Like Authoritative Communism left (once you go past a certain point the left and right look the same)

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          The USSR rivals the US, Japan and Germany for the most imperialist state in the past 100 years, so no, leftists are not anti-imperialist by default, that’s closer to liberals. Leftists are anti-capitalist by default.

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            Then maybe my understanding of “leftism” as a term is wrong. Just a little question, what political party would you consider “liberal”?

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              In the US? None, but the Libertarians probably come closest.

              The US is built on imperialism so of course no party is anti-imperialist, being anti-government is as close as you can get.

              Within Europe there are some parties that lean more anti-imperialist, generally green and liberal parties, but the traditional major conservative and leftist parties rarely are.

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          You missed a word, your comment doesnt make sense, but I understand what you are saying. Most communities on lemmy are leftist, and by default anti-imperialist, anti-colonialist and anti-genocide. Hexbear is not unique in that. They are often pro russia and pro china, and so by inference they are fine with the invasion of a sovereign nation, and fine with the genocide of the uyghurs.

          So, pro genocide. More than one genocide can happen in the world at the same time.

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            Ehhh, the American administration has singlehandedly wrecked the world for their own gain pretty much since WW2, either directly through the murder of hundreds of thousands or indirectly sponsoring coups and sowing instability overall. I mean, even the invasion of Ukraine happened because of an American coup in Ukraine in 2011 (that, eventually, ended up with the actor in office) and Russia understanding this as the precursor of an American mobilization in Russia. And whilst the Chinese human right abuses are also monstrous and unethical, at least they’re localised? It’s a mishandling of internal affairs, not an external invasion and utter destruction. I’m sorry, but they’re not even comparable. You could say “if China had carte blanche like the US did through military supremacy they would’ve acted the same way” but I doubt it, because I’ve seen and lived around Chinese people and around Americans/Westerners and the cultures couldn’t be more different… Regardless, if we take away the maybes, you have to objectively admit the American admin has been a blight on this world, through leaders on “both sides” of the American political spectrum, moreso than anyone in recent history.

            You can hate all three, or you can hate the American admin and give more leeway to those who haven’t yet shown they’re entirely Godless and immoral, and you can certainly prefer the Chinese and Russian admin for the same reasons, I guess.