Hey auspol. It’s about that time again: you know, the one where you have to sit around researching about 15 minor parties that sound distantly familiar to figure out what to put as your bottom preferences.

This year I found my way to a couple of blogs which offer brief and unabashedly biased reviews of the minor parties in the federal landscape. These are not new, I’m just late.

Both blogs are written from a relatively progressive-left perspective, at least by Australian standards. Inside the spoiler below is what they say about themselves:

Summaries of bloggers

Blatantly Partisan Party Reviews

I am not, nor have I ever been, a member of a political party. I review from the perspective of a small-g green democratic socialist. I am trained and work as a political historian of Australia and New Zealand. This background guides my reviews, which originated as—and remain—notes to inform my own vote. I do not aim for any false neutrality or objectivity, and I share these remarks in the hope they are useful to others trying to navigate Australia’s plethora of micro-parties. It should be obvious but these are my personal opinions, which should not be construed as representing the views of my employer nor of any other organisation with which I am affiliated.

Something for Cate

I’m Maz. In no particular order I’m left of centre, a grandparent, a writer, trans, pansexual, a mental health lived experience worker, agnostic, supportive of unions, and supporter of the Arts. I’m committed to holding governments and media accountable and, while I can’t promise complete objectivity, I can promise to deliver the same treatment to every party and independent in this election.

I’m Loki. I’ve been in several political parties and never found one left enough for my liking. I’m a bisexual cis male, and likewise agnostic, pro-Union and pro-arts. I try not to approach anything uncritically, whether I agree with it or not. I firmly believe that objectivity is a goal that can be striven for but never actually reached. That said, in that quest I will seek, strive and not yield.

While I obviously recommend you come to your own conclusions about the parties, it can be nice to hear what other voters think of them, especially when it’s some shit you never heard of before.

Something for Cate especially includes coverage of unregistered groupings, which are a deep black box of nothing to me most of the time.

  • Zagorath@aussie.zoneEnglish
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    4 months ago

    In a completely unrelated thread, I just know read a user say the following:

    As part of that group, you own ALL their bad behavior, because your group doesn’t do anything to remove that element from the group.

    I actually don’t entirely agree with it in the context it was presented. It’s hard to “remove” someone from an informal ideological association (though at the least, some members of the ideology should denounce others as necessary rather than remain silent).

    But in this context, I think that quote works perfectly. It’s a formalised political party. By being a member of the party, and especially by being a candidate for that political party, every one of their members are explicitly expressing agreement with the party’s methods.

    If one Labor candidate decided to put Family First ahead of the Greens, we would widely say that reflects badly of Labor as a whole. We wouldn’t excuse Labor Left because it was a Labor Right candidate who did it, we’d say that Labor Left chooses to remain unified with the ALP and in so doing they have endorsed Family First above the Greens.

    We can acknowledge that they might have disagreements behind the scenes and work towards improving, while also believing it valid to tar them with the same brush that their party’s public actions have crafted.

    but I can’t preference him above The Greens guy because it’s not at all clear why he is running or what he stands for

    Yeah I think it’s a complicated nuanced situation because there are multiple separate issues going on here. One is the ambiguity created by multiple separate parties merging into one party but semi-retaining their separate identities. Another is exactly what those individual constituent parties might stand for (just how libertarian are the Pirates, anyway?). And a third is the degree to which individual members should be held to account for the actions of the party as a whole, or other members of the party.

      • vaguerant@fedia.ioOP
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        4 months ago

        One thing you can assume about the candidates though, at least until they quit the party or at least indicate otherwise, is that they are willing to be associated with that minor party. So the best case scenario is a really good candidate who is slumming it with a party whose leadership is both absorbing and doing external deals with parties that are fundamentally opposed to their own stated principles. And then the worst case scenario is a candidate who is actively opposed to the party’s goals, camouflaging themselves in ideals they don’t believe in.

        To me, being part of the Fusion party right now–given the state of its leadership and decision-making–is a red flag even on a candidate who otherwise seems good.

          • vaguerant@fedia.ioOP
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            4 months ago

            The problems are much deeper than Victorian preference deals. As noted in the BPPR Fusion review (separate post to the preference deal fiasco), Fusion absorbed two additional parties this election season: the centrist Australian Progressives and right-wing Democracy First.

            This is not a Victoria issue, this is the party expanding by absorbing other parties which don’t stand for the ideals of the existing sub-parties. If the SA candidates are completely unaware of what Fusion is doing and what parties are actually in the party, that might be even worse than them pragmatically accepting it.

          • Zagorath@aussie.zoneEnglish
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            4 months ago

            Again, you are missing the point if you assume that what happens in VIctoria has any connection to what is happening in other states.

            Huh? No, I think you’re missing the point. Of course it has a connection. It’s the same party. But it’s also not just “what happens in Victoria”. The linked review shows the official national Facebook page for the party saying

            The Greens are frauds…The Greens are a destructive force who only want to virtue signal and cause drama by obstructing Labor rather than working collaboratively to get better climate outcomes

            Not only do they spread completely false Labor talking points (time and time again, the Greens have tried to get Labor to come to the negotiating table, only for Labor to be the ones who refuse to negotiate, or refuse to negotiate in good faith), they are using their official national account to attack the people who at least seem to be their most natural allies.

            I can’t find a HTV for Fusion in Qld, or for their candidate in Ryan. So I don’t even have any possible counter evidence that maybe up here they might be more sensible.

              • Zagorath@aussie.zoneEnglish
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                4 months ago

                social media accounts for a micro-party are not necessarily as reliable as those of larger parties and are more prone to individual influence

                Absolutely true, and in service of that point, at least some of the Facebook comments were signed off by someone called “Simon”. Probably Simon Gnieslaw, #2 on the Fusion ballot in Victoria.

                My issue though remains. Why would someone sign up for a party if they do not trust that party’s leadership? That goes extra for smaller parties where you won’t be able to fall back on the party establishment rather than its personal leadership as you could for larger parties.