Conversely, people who may not look or sound like a traditional expert, but are good at making predictions
The weird rationalist assumption that being good at predictions is a standalone skill that some people are just gifted with (see also the emphasis on superpredictors being a thing in itself that’s just clamoring to come out of the woodwork but for the lack of sufficient monetary incentive) tends to come off a lot like if an important part of the prediction market project was for rationalists to isolate the muad’dib gene.
I think the other big objection is that the value of the information you can get from a prediction market basically only approaches usability as the time to market close approaches zero. If you’re trying to predict whether an event is actually going to happen you usually want to know with enough of a time lead to actually do something about it, but at the same time that “do something about it” is going to impact the actual event being predicted and get “priced in.”
It’s that old business aphorism about making a metric into a target. Even if prediction markets were unambiguously useful as informational tools and didn’t have any of the incredibly obvious perverse incentives and power imbalances that they do, as soon as you try to actually use that information to do anything the market will start to change based on the perception of the market itself. Like, if there’s a market on someone being assassinated, you need to factor in not only the chances of it happening on its own but also the chances of it happening given that a high likelihood from the prediction market will result in additional safety measures being deployed or given that a small likelihood from the market may cause them to take on riskier public appearances or otherwise create more opportunities. If you don’t actually use the information for anything then it might be capturing something, but that something becomes wildly self-referential is the information is actually used in any way.
Prediction markets: Your source for all prediction tulips
Lol love how the good analysis just misses that people without disposable income are now excluded, it puts a price on participating in the public discourse.
The bullshit artist prevention also doesnt work, as we have a bullshit artist as the richest person in the world despite use being able to show all the bullshit he was wrong about but he still gets all the money. Despite there being no fsd, mars colony, covid over by april. Why would he bet on his takes that even now with all his exposed lies people still treat him like a nerdboy genius?
people without disposable income are now excluded
The article does say/link:
I’ve previously talked about how it may not always be ethical to require people to bet on their beliefs, and talked about how the interests of rich people could bias certain prediction markets
As for
The bullshit artist prevention also doesnt work
In the footnote it does say:
This doesn’t work for very longterm bets, and it also wouldn’t convince everyone, since conspiracy theorists still exist. Still, I expect it to be helpful on average.
Although there’s likely still an overestimation of how much it would help
I started reading the post about wealth bias and was immediately distracted by the fact that they’re trying to call a government based on prediction markets a “futarchy” which speaks to these people being entirely the wrong kind of terminally online.
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I saw those but I think it totally removes the pros, also my second complaint is that conmen would simply not join, and this will not expose them as frauds and they cant be made to join as forced betting on yourself is a crazy idea. (Also increases upfront costs for everyone more).
It is all very much wargames.
