• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    The vast majority of post-Soviet citizens believe they are worse off now than under Socialism, which makes sense because the reintroduction of Capitalism resulted in skyrocketing rates of poverty, prostitution, drug abuse, homelessness, and an estimated 7 million excess deaths around the world.

    Don’t know why you’re calling me a lumpen, tbh.

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      Yeah sure I’ve been working in central Europe for some good years almost a decade and a half and haven’t found a single one yet who praised communism in any way but sure you’re right because there’s an article on the internet that says something you want, you’re a walking example of selective nostalgia wrapped in bad-faith stats.

      Why I call you a lumpen? You’re romanticizing an ideology you never had to suffer through, like I said I’ve worked across Central Europe for years. Ask anyone from Romania, Hungary, or the former DDR what they think of the Soviet system. The answer won’t be a TikTok praising the Red Army. You’re pushing a fantasy that collapses under even a minute of contact with people who lived through it, you’re not a revolutionary. You’re a bourgeois idealist larping as a comrade while sneering at the very people you claim to liberate. The working class doesn’t need people like you and I mean the they/thems college communists

      also Ah yes, the good old ‘capitalism killed 7 million’ narrative. Reality check: the USSR collapsed under its own weight after decades of repression and inefficiency. The mess after was not Capitalism’s fault—it was the hangover from authoritarian misrule. And if socialism was so beloved, why did people flee west the first chance they got?

      Please, don’t try to cosplay a communist, it’s pathetic, embarassing and disrespectul to people who suffered it

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        Ah, the good 'ol “facts and data don’t matter, actually, because I said so” special. The fact that Socialism was better than Capitalism is today isn’t just in some studies, but repeated over and over again. It’s thoroughly well-documented.

        Further, you have no real proof of anything. Why on Earth would the sharp increase in poverty, prostitution, drug abuse, crime, wealth inequality, homelessness, and starvation occur because of the previously stable system? The dissolution of the USSR was driven instead by numerous complex factors:

        1. Liberal reforms that gave the Bourgeoisie power over key industries

        2. A firm dedication to planning by hand even as the economy grew more complex and computers too slow to be adapted to the planning mechanisms

        3. A huge portion of resources were spent on maintaining millitary parity with the US in order to dissuade US invasion

        4. 80% of the combat done in World War II was on the Eastern Front, and 20 million Soviets lost their lives, with no real economic support from the West in rebuilding despite taking the largest cost of war

        5. An enclosed, heavily sanctioned economy relied on internal resource gathering, closed off from the world market

        Countries like the PRC have taken to heart what happened in the USSR. As an example, the PRC shifted to a more classically Marxist economy, focusing on public ownership of only the large firms and key industries, and relying on markets to develop out of private ownership. This keeps them in touch with the global economy without giving the bourgeoisie control of key industries, and thus the bourgeoisie has no power over the economy or the state.

        Further yet, your casual queerphobia, assertion that I am both somehow lumpen and bourgeois, the incorrect claim that I’m a college student, and more baseless insults really just adds to the fact that you have no counter to the hard data, so you resort to personal attacks.

        The fact is, under Socialism, necessities were taken care of, and luxuries were shorter in supply. Luxuries increased for those who could afford them after Capitalism came, while many of those who couldn’t enjoyed their new “freedom” starving to death. You insult them.