• the_q@lemm.ee
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    10 days ago

    To be fair we do live too long. Rotting in our failing bodies while we lose who we are is a fate worse than death. All to keep Republicans in power and scammers rich.

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            10 days ago

            Oh haha. Yeah I know how I sound, but you watch a love one deteriorate and see how you feel.

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              10 days ago

              It was common a few generations back to have your teeth pulled and be fitted for dentures in your 30s.

              The end of your natural life is always going to be gnarly.

              There is a distinct concept between a “life span” and a “health span”.

              Nobody denies that there is a point in time that your health fails to the point where additional life comes with diminished returns. This is where right to die legislation becomes very important.

              But, speaking in broad general statistical generalities, both lifespan and health span have been increasing. The gap has always existed. In short: people have always lived too long, as you put it.

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        10 days ago

        No he’s right. They want you living longer so you can work longer and consume longer.

        Number only goes bigger if you have more workers and consumers. Once either of those things stops being true you can’t have “infinite growth”.

        There’s no way they want you living a shorter life. Not to mention all the money in old people care. It’s a massive industry.

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        10 days ago

        You and others who hold this idea fail to understand a certain facet of society: there are those around you who want you around, and are willing to care for you, even with your infirmities.

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          I think you’d be surprised how many of us truly have no one. I’m lucky but I have known others who never were.

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            10 days ago

            They might have to hunt for you, but you could share your decades of experience and advice. You could remember how the group pulled through a drought, what herbs have medicinal properties, where the best foraging is at certain times of the year. Just passing down folk lore and oral tradition is an important role.

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        10 days ago

        This country has more than enough money to take care of the elderly, the disabled, the veterans, the poor.

        The problem is the fucking billionaires and their insatiable greed.

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        10 days ago

        OK. So if you’re one of the VERY few lucky people to have amazing healthcare then sure… Live forever. Most of us don’t so what do we do?

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          10 days ago

          Some countries actually care about their people and provide free, government funded healthcare. You could vote and write to your politicians in ways that support implementing that into your area.

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                10 days ago

                Look around. Look where we are. Your proud little comment is delusional.

              • Laurel Raven@lemmy.blahaj.zoneB
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                Have you missed the part where fascism has taken over the US, in spite of the millions of us who tried to stop it in the polls, only to have a slightly larger number get duped into believing that the fascists will fix the price of eggs and that would make the horror okay? Or before that even how the rich have managed to convince so many of us of the lie that government run healthcare was not only socialism/communism (dirty words here) would ruin our healthcare system and we’d be forced to sit and wait for months or years for necessary procedures and die on the waiting list, or that the government will just flat out decide it was time for you to die through “death panels”?

                There are plenty of us who have been fighting for this our whole lives, maybe hold off on that “bitch ass attitude” bullshit for us just pointing out that we don’t actually have power here.