• Zerush@lemmy.ml
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    The problem of the US is, it is an neo-liberal feudalism with the right to vote between right wing and far right wing to be able to label it as democracy which it never really was. You have the choice to get fucked with or without lubrication, currently the last one.

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    11 days ago

    bUt iT’s bEtTeR WhEn dEmOcRaTs aRe iN CoNtRoL BeCaUsE ThErE’s nO FaCiSm!1!1

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      It’s better when Democrats are in control because my brown countrymen aren’t being detained and deported without due process by Democrat politicians

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        no one is; but there are plenty of people who insist that the democrats are better because they dump a little bit less shit on you than the republicans while refusing to admit that shit piles up no matter how little you do it.

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          Less shit sure sounds better than more.

          When I have the luxury of choosing no shit, I do.

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            Seriously the people in this subreddit cannot seem to comprehend that “less bad” is in fact better than “more bad”

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            of course it sounds better; the democrat’s entire schtick is sounding better, but substantively the same.

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              I think if you pay attention you can see that while both aren’t great, one of them is worse.

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                no one’s arguing that one isn’t worse; but there are plenty of people who keep regurgitating this deflecting talking point and that makes it clear thorough the indoctrination has become.

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                  One wants to put us all in concentration camps, the other doesn’t. Hmmm, let’s go with the psycho narcissist concentration option. Gee, I hope it works out for us.

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        they’re kool aide drinking themselves into a single party state. lol

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    We need to all vote libertarian, just to see what its like. As it is, we keep going back and forth with half the country hating the gov and each other. I think I speak for many on both sides when I say, we are tired of the red and blue.

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    Respectfully disagree. They care at least as much about us as a cattle rancher cares about their cows, which is quite a lot. The end result is still grisly, though.

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    Neither party will ever willingly give up the two party system, as they both benefit from it. At some point Americans need to start backing third parties or everything will just continue to go in circles indefinitely.

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    Haha, I still not sure what to call them.

    1. USAns?
    2. USArians?
    3. USians?

    I think Usans would be the most correct, but they are a people with no name.

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    If you haven’t picked up your rubles yet, they’re not coming. No need to #bothSides to split the Dem vote anymore – it’s already over. Come back for more assignments if they ever get to vote again.

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      No need to #bothSides to split the Dem vote anymore – it’s already over.

      You’re the one who brought lost elections into this.

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        No content correct the record bots are downvoting you and a lot of other ppl in this thread, who say anything even slightly negative about them. I’m having to ban a lot of them rn.

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      Acknowledging that the majority of politicians in the US is “bothsideism” is so fucking stupid. Don’t get it fucked up, it’s the poor vs the rich. And if it isn’t obvious, they want more money. More power.

      If you actively stand there and say “yea shut up, bothsideist” (whatever the fuck that means) then you are contributing exactly nothing to the conversation.

      This system is supposed to be for the people, right? For all the people? Not for the select few that gamed the system? So if it’s between a totalitarian state that silences dissent in order to keep workers rights or one that lets our politicians be corrupted and look the other way when rich people test the waters and try and take more and more with time, I’d prefer the first option.

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      Further evidence that “tankie” just means “anyone to the left of the Democratic party”

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    Republicans are disappearing people into foreign countries with absolutely no due process or recourse to return them. Print out this meme on a sheet of 8x11 paper, roll it into a tight tube, and shove it straight up your asshole

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    Imagine being unable to tell the difference between Biden and Trump.

    Wow. Just a colossal global scale wow. You chose this week to BoTh sIdEs it all!

    You have not just buried your head in the sand, you have then stirred vast amounts of cement powder into the sand and then watered your mortar mix and waited for it to set.

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      Oh yes this is exactly what OP is saying. I’m sure Biden along with all the other Democrat politicians care IMMENSELY about everyone and are pure, benevolent beings. OP is 100% wrong. Democrat politicians treat every US citizen as if they are their own child. As long as the Republicans continue to do awful shit I will 100% believe this is how the world runs!

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      We currently have two parties in the US:

      1. The Nazi party.

      2. The Nazi collaborator party.

      One is objectively better than the other, but that ain’t saying much.

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        And back in real life rather than your imagination, we’ve got the actual rapist versus the guy who once smelled someone’s hair. Yeah definitely both the same. /s

        Yeah, America is a capitalist hellhole, but the false equivalence you folks are pushing is absolutely astonishing.

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        Interesting analogy I have found. There is a plethora of psychology and sociology studies that show that children in abusive relationships end up hating the parent that refuses to stand up to the abusive parent more than the parent doing the abusing. Even if the child wouldn’t phrase it this way, there is an acceptance that abusive alcoholics exist. It is the supposedly good and sober parent letting it happen and enabling it that generates the greatest anger and hatred in the child.

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      As an outside viewer, the Democrats seem like the obvious better choice. The also obviously don’t care about you that much. From what I can tell, while their actions are not outright destructive towards you, they at least seem only superficially helpful.

      And sure, that’s much better. I don’t think they care about you.

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    “I want the USA to suffer and die”

    Ftfy. Only one party is actively funded by our enemies and is enacting favorable policies to them.

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      Only one party is actively funded by our enemies

      Incorrect, both parties take money from Wall Street. Only a tiny, tiny minority of the Democrats don’t, and those spoiler Democrats are hated by the DNC far more than the DNC opposes their esteemed Republican opposition.

      If you refuse to see the capitalist oligarchs are the enemy that created the conditions for Trump, then nevermind and carry on, as there’s nothing that ever could convince you.

    • “our enemies” LOL you Americans are so ridiculous. Turn off the TV, you’re just some dope who works for a living, absolutely no one is your enemy except the dictatorship of capital who are represented by political parties in your country and run capitalism.

      Both of your parties carried on illegal wars in my country, toppled the government, left a power vacuum that consumed my family and I still don’t think of you as my enemy.

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      The democrats were committing genocide. GTFO with the “funding our enemies” Ultranationalism.

      You are right about one thing though, I do want the USA to suffer and die, given both sides are fully committed to nationalism and genocide.

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        This was in Canada and we asked people, how much would you pay to clean one lake from acid rain pollution? And we asked other people, how much would you pay to clean up all lakes in Ontario from acid rain pollution? And people gave roughly the same number.

        Point is, the vast majority of people are black and white thinkers. You’re either cleaning pollution, or you’re not. 100% of the party supports cutting off aid to Israel, or they’re all literally committing genocide. You are merely one of the vast majority.

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          What are you talking about? What do lakes in Canada have to do with the fact that the Democratic Party is fully institutionally committed to fully supporting Israel and its extermination campaign?

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              Democrats have several members who have called for ending aid to Israel.

              Like 3 right. so 99% the same. So we’re back to telling people to be ok with just slightly less evil. Whcih was tried in the last election and failed spectacularly.

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                15 Senate Dems vote to cancel billions in Israeli military aid

                There’s 49 senate Democrats, which means 30.6% of Senate Democrats have voted for ending aid to Israel. 0% of Republican senators voted to cancel aid to Israel.

                Furthermore Republicans absolutely love to abuse pro-Palestine people in the worst ways they can, including arresting and deporting pro-Palestine people and cutting off funding for colleges that allow you to protest. I don’t think that’s “slightly less” evil.

                Finally even “slightly less” evil is by definition less evil. Getting in a car crash at 80 MPH is only slightly less likely to kill you than getting in a crash at 90 mph. So what’s the point of hitting the brakes?

                To be honest, to someone who’s observed this conflict for a long time, your side is getting its ass kicked. Israel has taken more land for 8 decades and no one is stopping them as they take more. You need every last advantage if you want to turn the tide. Don’t be lazy, make the necessary distinctions between those who might help you and those who will do whatever a judge will allow them to do to harm you.

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                  To be honest, to someone who’s observed this conflict for a long time, your side is getting its ass kicked.

                  What is your “side”? Neither the GOP nor the DNC are on my side. They’re on their donors’ sides. On the side of Zionists, the military-industrial complex, and other corporations that benefit from US imperialism & Israeli settler-colonialism.