I don’t care if it’s in a shitposting community, a meme community, or a news community. If the image or text is generated it should be labeled as such, and failing to label it should be grounds to remove the post. AI slop is a plague and its only going to get worse as the tech matures (if it hasn’t already peaked).
I’m so tired of having to call it out every time I see it, especially when people in the comments think it’s a photoshop work or (heavens help us) real. Human labor has real tangible value that plagiarism machines can’t even pretend to imitate and I’m sick of seeing that shit without it being labeled (so I can filter it out).
Agreed
You and the previous2 poster who complained about people complaining about AI slop should have a rap battle.
Dammit, I hated down voting this because I agree wholeheartedly.
But this is a common sentiment, it just isn’t getting reported about as heavily as all the advertising disguised as reporting. Even outside of lemmy, people are bitching about exactly this. Not just online either, and not just tech minded people.
I have been trying to block AI content communities when I see them, but it is an onerous task. Is there a way to remove items labeled as AI from my feed?
Very popular opinion
You would think so, but in my experience so far most group admins don’t give a shit, or even like it.
I thought this was the community for unpopular opinions?
I agree with you so hard, I actually have to downvote your post because of community.
You’d be surprised how many times I’ve gotten “well, it doesn’t matter cause this is such and such community”, which is why I posted it here.
I spent hours Photoshopping Elon Musk’s face onto Scarlett (took so long because I made myself do it with Gimp 3). If I could have done it with AI, the results would likely have been better and that time wasted making a meme is something I won’t ever get back.
The result would’ve been worthless trash because that’s all ai is.
Thank you for not contributing to the decay of artistic ability and creativity by actually taking the time to do it yourself. I’d rather a mountain of human made low effort shit over even one “good” generative “art”. Plagiarism machines can all die now
The result would’ve been worthless trash because that’s all ai is.
So an image created by an AI bad because it was created by an AI? Regardless of the the content?
How about an image created by an AI and then worked on by a human?If your process is to have a plagiarism machines output crap, and then you work on top of that, that’s your fucking choice. I wouldn’t do it, but to each their own.
I took a digital photo of Musk off of Google and cut/pasted it onto a frame grab from Gone with the Wind.
I hand crafted the plagiarism using plagiarism.
This is it. AI is a tool just like anything else. Before AI people would complain that a photo was ‘shopped and before that it was that the models in magazines were airbrushed.
All of these are tools that are at an artist’s fingertips and a good artist can do something great with if they put the time into it.
Yes, lazy people can create crap with it if they want but you really can’t be blaming the tool for what stupid humans do with it.
Output from generative AI is always garbage?
It’s not wasted completely time… you gained Gimp skills
Id take the terrible photoshop meme over the AI slop meme any day. 1 takes effort the other wastes electricity
At the rate it’s advancing, pretty soon you won’t be able to tell which is which.
Nah, we’re cool. You and I can tell but AI won’t. So it will enshitificate it self into uselessness.
We should all strive to cause confusion in all sorts of databases so AI can’t unfuck itself.
Blaming the AI for plagiarism is like blaming a calculator for a wrong answer. It depends on how it’s used. AI is a tool — and like any tool, it can be misused or used ethically depending on the person behind it.
Plagiarism involves intent and deception, usually by a person taking someone else’s work and claiming it as their own. AI can’t have intent, so it seems like your concerns in this regard should be directed at the user, not the content, for which Lemmy already has tools to address i.e blocking a individual.
The analogy with a calculator does not work at all :(( … AI is always predicated on someone’s work, that’s the problem!
AI doesn’t reproduce individual works the way plagiarism does. It’s not like it’s pulling out someone’s article and copying it. It’s trained on patterns — like how a person who reads hundreds of books starts to pick up how stories are structured, but doesn’t memorize them word-for-word.
If AI is trained on copyrighted material without permission, there’s a real argument about whether that’s fair or exploitative, but that’s more of a legal and ethical issue than a plagiarism one.
Nah, it’s more like “I’m sick of the eyeball stabbing machine that was built to stab eyeballs, I wish people would stop using it and stabbing my eyeballs”
Ai by it’s nature does nothing but plagiarism.
Again, plagiarism isn’t just ‘using others’ work’ — it’s about copying and passing it off as your own, often without transformation. AI doesn’t memorize or intentionally replicate specific works. It generates outputs based on probabilities, not stored text. That’s a big difference in mechanism.
There’s a meaningful distinction between training and theft. A human artist studies other art — that doesn’t make their work plagiarism, even if it’s derivative.
As I said, if the outputs are used irresponsibly — like someone passing off AI writing as their own research or using it to flood markets with low-effort content — that’s where it becomes a tool for exploitation. But the problem then is how it’s used, not the tech itself.
Whatever mate people didn’t volunteer their art to be scraped by ai so even if it’s not plagiarism exactly, as defined by you or whomever, that doesn’t mean that it’s ethical or people like it.
And most don’t.
And again this isn’t just about images, there’s also the environment and misinformation, plagiarism in academia (and that fits your definition) and a plethora of other issues which are not related to capitalism at all.
Most of the data used to train AI, especially image models, came from publicly available content accessible by anyone. Artists have been doing this kind of thing for centuries: looking at existing work, internalizing styles, and creating something new. AI is doing that at scale — it’s not copying, it’s learning patterns. Just like humans do.
Consent is important, absolutely, but if your art is posted publicly, you’re already consenting to it being seen and learned from. That’s how influence works. If someone draws in your style after following you online, that’s not theft. You might not like it, but it’s not unethical in itself.
Also, let’s not pretend this conversation is only about artists’ rights. It’s become a catch-all for every fear around new tech. People are worried about the impact of AI on the environment? Understandable and totally valid, although way less than you might think
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-54271-x
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-76682-6
Misinformation? Agreed, serious concern and one I share. But saying AI is inherently unethical because of how some people use it is like saying the internet is inherently unethical because people post lies.
We should absolutely talk about regulation, transparency, and compensation, but let’s not throw out the entire field because it challenges the comfort zone of some industries. Ethics matter, yes, but so does clarity. Not everything that feels unfair is a violation.
Ok, first of all, AI doesn’t “learn” the way humans do. That’s not how AI imaging works. It basically translates images into a form of static computers can read, uses an algorithm to mix those into a new static, then translates it back. That’s easy different than someone studying what negative space is or learning how to draw hands.
Second, posting a picture implies consent for people to see and learn from it, but that doesn’t imply consent for people to use it however they want. A 16 year old girl posting pictures of her birthday party isn’t really consenting to people using that to generate pornography based off of her body. There’s also the issue of copyright, which is there to protect your works from just being used by anyone. (Yes, it’s advised by corporations, don’t bother trying to bring that up, I’m already pissed at Disney.) But even with people saying specifically that they don’t want their art to be used for AI, even prominent artists like Miyazaki, doesn’t stop AI from taking those images and doing something they don’t consent to, scraping, with them.
Third, trying to say that it’s only fear over new tech is a bullshit, hand waving way of dismissing people legitimate concerns with the issue. I like new technology and how it can help people. I even like some applications for AI. Using a bread checkout tool to detect breast cancer is awesome. The problems that have come up with other applications of it are pretty terrible, and you shouldn’t stick your head in the sand about them.
(As an aside, trying to compare ai generated slop to all other arts is apples and oranges. There’s much more art than digital images, so saying that an AI image takes less energy to make than a Ming vase or literally any other pottery for that matter is a false equivalence. They are not the same even if they have similarities, so comparing their physical costs doesn’t track.)
Fourth, I’m not just talking about people using AI to make lies, I’m talking about AI making lies unintentionally. Like putting glue on pizza to keep the cheese on. Or to eat rocks. AI doesn’t know what’s a joke or misinformation, and will present it as true, and people will believe it as true if they don’t know any better. It’s inaccurate, and can’t be accurate because it doesn’t have a filter for its summeries. It’s typing only using the suggested next word on your cell phone.
I didn’t say to get rid of AI entirely, like I said, some applications are great, like with the breast cancer. But to say that the only issues people have with AI are because of capitalism is incorrect. It’s a poorly working machine and saying that communism will make it magically not broken, when the problems are intrinsic to it, is a false and delusional statement.
Ok, first of all, AI doesn’t “learn” the way humans do. That’s not how AI imaging works. It basically translates images into a form of static computers can read, uses an algorithm to mix those into a new static, then translates it back. That’s easy different than someone studying what negative space is or learning how to draw hands.
The comparison to human learning isn’t about identical processes, it’s about function. Human artists absorb influences and styles, often without realizing it, and create new works based on that synthesis. AI models, in a very different but still meaningful way, also synthesize patterns based on what they’re exposed to. When people say AI ‘learns from art,’ they aren’t claiming it mimics human cognition. They mean that, functionally, it analyzes patterns and structures in vast amounts of data, just as a human might analyze color, composition, and form across many works. So no, AI doesn’t learn “what negative space means” it learns that certain pixel distributions tend to occur in successful compositions. That’s not emotional or intellectual, but it’s not random either.
Second, posting a picture implies consent for people to see and learn from it, but that doesn’t imply consent for people to use it however they want. A 16 year old girl posting pictures of her birthday party isn’t really consenting to people using that to generate pornography based off of her body. There’s also the issue of copyright, which is there to protect your works from just being used by anyone. (Yes, it’s advised by corporations, don’t bother trying to bring that up, I’m already pissed at Disney.) But even with people saying specifically that they don’t want their art to be used for AI, even prominent artists like Miyazaki, doesn’t stop AI from taking those images and doing something they don’t consent to, scraping, with them.
I agree, posting art online doesn’t give others the right to do anything they want with it. However, there’s a difference between viewing and learning from art versus directly copying or redistributing it. AI models don’t store or reproduce exact images — they extract statistical representations and blend features across many sources. They aren’t taking a single image and copying it. That’s why, legally and technically, it isn’t considered theft. Equating all AI art generation with nonconsensual exploitation like kiddie porn is conflating separate issues: ethical misuse of outputs is not the same as the core technology being inherently unethical.
Also, re your point on copyright, it’s important to remember that copyright is designed to protect specific expressions of ideas not general styles or patterns. AI-generated content that does not directly replicate existing images does not typically violate copyright, which is why lawsuits over this remain unresolved or unsuccessful so far.
(As an aside, trying to compare ai generated slop to all other arts is apples and oranges. There’s much more art than digital images, so saying that an AI image takes less energy to make than a Ming vase or literally any other pottery for that matter is a false equivalence. They are not the same even if they have similarities, so comparing their physical costs doesn’t track.)
This thread and conversation isspecifically talking about AI art, so the comparison and data is still apt.
Fourth, I’m not just talking about people using AI to make lies, I’m talking about AI making lies unintentionally. Like putting glue on pizza to keep the cheese on. Or to eat rocks. AI doesn’t know what’s a joke or misinformation, and will present it as true, and people will believe it as true if they don’t know any better. It’s inaccurate, and can’t be accurate because it doesn’t have a filter for its summeries. It’s typing only using the suggested next word on your cell phone.
Concerns about misinformation, environmental impact, and misuse are real. That’s why the responsible use of AI must involve regulation, transparency, and ethical boundaries. But that’s very different from claiming that AI is an ‘eyeball stabbing machine’. That kind of absolutist framing isn’t helpful. It stifles productive discussion about how we can use these tools in ways that are helpful, including in medicine like you mention.
I didn’t say to get rid of AI entirely, like I said, some applications are great, like with the breast cancer. But to say that the only issues people have with AI are because of capitalism is incorrect. It’s a poorly working machine and saying that communism will make it magically not broken, when the problems are intrinsic to it, is a false and delusional statement.
I have never once mentioned capitalism or communism.
so what AI detection tool should we use to detect it?
I believe gravity exists.
I have no issue with your opinion and I doubt very many others do.
Is this AI?
I can’t ever be sure unless an anal retentive wannabe mod declares so.Google image search
5 years ago
No, it’s not AI.