Didn’t they explicitly ask via #metoo movement and what not for men to NOT approach them directly ever or else they screem that this is harassment?
No that’s totally different. You can approach women just don’t be a douche/creep and respect the rejections and otherwise when it works you’re in.
Your point holds under circumstances that make them uncomfortable like during night or when they’re feeling unsafe because a few bad apples do invoke trauma.
If you’re not a bad apple you have nothing to worry about. Except femcels, those ones are misandrists and theres no hope like for incels. Leave them to correct themselves or stay alone forever.
I think that speaking out loud about malicious activities towards women is important and yes, harassment is real, but it really feels like society became almost too sensitive when it comes to approaching women. Some years ago there were video campaigns where they would literally show how one men stops another from talking to stranger female, before he was given a change to be either creepy or nice and respectful with like assumption that this is bad anyway. And also who’s to judge where’s the boundary between being creep or not anyway, this can be very subjective.
And it’s not my POV, I just speak about what I see in internet/media. Being gay introvert I couldn’t care less about talking to strangers…
If you’re not a bad apple you have nothing to worry about. Except femcels, those ones are misandrists and theres no hope like for incels.
It’s not always immediately obvious who those are. So every interaction is a dice roll to see if you get a date, get rejected politely, or screamed at and publicly dragged through the mud. Remember the Instagram gym girls telling at gym bros glancing in their general direction? For a lot of younger men, the consequences of the risk, however small, outweigh the reward.
And women run the gamble of getting murdered because some little man couldn’t handle rejection, gonna be honest here bud, I think that’s a little bit worse than being posted on someone’s cringe compilation.
It’s not a competition.
They’re explaining why men might not approach. Jfc.
If you mistook ‘don’t be creepy’ for ‘don’t approach women at all,’ then yeah. You’re probably in a mental place where you shouldn’t approach.
Given how a lot of women are, don’t be creepy does mean “don’t approach them at all. Unless I’m interested in you, which I won’t tell you because men have to make the first move”.
That wasn’t my experience at all when dating. Just treat them like a person. Be friends. If you get on ok, then make your move. They often beat me to it.
If the cold open approach isn’t working, change strategies.
No dating for the autists who aren’t good with social cues, got it.
Dating is a social activity. I’m not sure how you do it without being able to perform socially, but there’s probably resources out there to learn from.
Not all men. You. They don’t want YOU to approach them.
*you all
The beginning of the tweet reminds me of this song:
What’s the reference?
Number stats. Also the song is not really related, it is about bush being reelected in 2004 because only 17% of young voters voted. The song is pretty much a tweet in the form of a song.
Lol good to know that we’ve always punched down at the young disenfranchised people for not magically saving the rest of the human race.
Just like the “protest voters” making Trump win
Oh.
Anon is probably in the US: social media, smartphones, and 3rd wave feminism in a deeply religious, traditional, and divided society would explain their problems.
3rd wave feminism
Lol. That’s some incel shit thinking.
“My programming tells me I have to disagree. I don’t know why so I’ll throw out the term I was taught to use”
ha! incel!
You sound like those right-wingers who think communism and socialism are evil terms that should be misconstrued as insults. “Guys, I called them a liberal! Where are my internet points?”
and you sound like an incel, sorry…
“what should I say to prove it’s not a knee-jerk response? Oh, I know, double down on the knee-jerk response I had earlier!”
If you repeat it often enough, I becomes the truth in your head.
What? The fact that you use incel rhetoric because you can’t assume that you’re a loser and need to blame it on feminism?
Third wave feminism is the “kill all men” wave
It’s the ideology taken to the extreme, it’s not really condusive for living together
Bro you literally used the term ‘3rd wave feminism’. Have some self-awareness.
What are you arguing? 3rd wave feminism doesn’t exist?
You know what? You’re right! Women’s rights and freedoms are the reason I can’t get my dick wet.
Way to ignore all context and focus on the one thing triggering you. “This tree in particular, sir!”
This thread is just incels outing themselves
I’ve never understood how/why so many guys on Lemmy (and reddit) are so scared of women.
I have no problems dating, and I’m poor as fuck and have a face like a foot.
After reading the responses in this thread, I think it’s all just a bunch of bullshit excuses you all are making up.
I think you all are just afraid. The lack of confidence I see on Lemmy is insane. Lol
You all have spent so much time staring at screens, you’re afraid to talk to people in real life.
Maybe instead of yelling at people on Lemmy who disagree with your politics, you should actually talk to women in real life. Lol
Tbh I would probably try speed dating if I was looking for someone these days. I don’t think I would have at 18-25 though.
What speed dating trouble anon is talking about?
It’s a lie.
Part of an attempt to further isolate people and blame men for Capitalism killing relationships
Part of an attempt to further isolate people and blame men for Capitalism killing relationships
100% agree with this. One of the reasons my ex gave when we broke up was that I’m a workaholic. At the time I worked at a newspaper and sometimes finished 20 - 30 minutes after my regular time when a big story came in late.
45% of men 18 to 25 have never asked out a woman in person
I can’t speak for the whole 45% but some of us have heard stories from women about how that other 55% can behave. I think I’d rather wait for a lady to (never) ask me out then put someone in the position of thinking “Oh, is he gonna take it bad if I say no?”
VR porn and furry conventions
If I had the money to go to a furry convention…
Well, statistically I’d blow it all on a fursona pic, but hey, who knows?
Maybe because they are getting advice from other men how to trick a girl into giving them sex, this why alot look to pickup artist, it involves manipulation and tricks. They got so used to it, they don’t even ask people
Speed dating is dumb anyway
Tell that to the woman you’re not speed dating rn
Need for Speed Dating: Most Unwanted (2005)
Damn, I thought I was the only basement dweller
We are to broke to spend $10 on a beer and $10 on Frenchfries at a bar.
It’s free to post a dick Pic on grindr and have a guy deliver himself to your basement to give you the most enthusiastic blow job of your life.
So many comments echoing “women told us to stop approaching us, so we did!”
I mean no offense, truly, but you missed the point if that’s the message you took. It wasn’t “Do not, under any circumstances, speak to a woman” it was, “if you shoot your shot and she’s not interested, move on and don’t make it weird. If she is at work, be very careful as customer service does not equal flirting.” Yes, there are some grey areas (not sure even the best gentleman could slide up to a woman alone in a parking lot and not freak her out), but some of you are kicking up the board without even moving a piece. Stop pushing the narrative that only attractive men can speak to women. Not only are you assuming you’re not attractive by saying that (which cannot be good for your confidence) , you’re reducing women’s feelings and concerns as being blindly shallow and unwarranted.
The world is not full of only beautiful people, yet people still live and love. Not to dismiss the difficulties (as an uggo myself, I get it), but you can get out there, I know you can.
I don’t know what the problem is there but I can say Im stretched too thin. I once went on Prozac and it completely changed my energy levels for a time. Unfortunately, the effects wore off within a year and everything was a slog again. It just sucks to know what it feels like to have excess energy and all the dopamine that comes with it only to go back critically low levels.
The end of the day the amount of time I would need to sort all my shit out is just not afforded to me. So I go with incremental improvements and the way things are the world is getting shitter faster than I’m getting better.
That feeling of not being able to keep up is very real.
Ah, work/life balance
After my long relationship (7+), i started dating again. Unfortunately i discovered that no one is looking for a meaningful connection or a serious conversation. Everyone wants to catered and be heard, no one wants to listen for just a second. I actively stopped myself from flirting/dating anymore, it’s just a complete waste of time 🤷♂️im sorry to say many many many girls are VERY VERY superficial people.
