cross-posted from: https://linux.community/post/2362831

I don’t know how extended this is, but apparently there are car makers selling cars with no keys. Instead you download a proprietary app and use it to access your car.

I like being practical and talking to a car to turn the volume up or down, to open the door or to turn the temperature higher are things I don’t need nor want. Give me mechanical levers, reachable stalks and no proprietary bloatware. I don’t need a movie theater on wheels.

Imagine an early 2000s car running on an electric motor. That’s what I want.

  • Aux@feddit.ukEnglish
    313·
    3 days ago

    EVs have no gears, they don’t need this stuff. Or they have a manual simulation.

    • Cyrus Draegur@lemm.eeEnglish
      295·
      3 days ago

      EVs have no gears

      GOOD THING THESE AREN’T GEARS THEN, FUCKO
      THEY’RE MODE SELECTIONS

      EVs do, in fact, Park.
      EVs can, in fact, Reverse.
      EVs must, in fact, need to be capable of rolling free (Neutral) and it would be BETTER if you could do that by disconnecting the drive train to eliminate the risk of the “regenerative braking” system overloading its electrical system and making the battery explode.
      EVs furthermore OBVIOUSLY Drive.

      “Low” in the traditional sense is clearly not necessary, obviously, but it could be nice to have a mode selection for what people have sometimes described as “single pedal driving” where regeneration is configured so aggressively that letting up on the accelerator pedal will cause the car to decelerate rapidly without the need to touch the brake pedal.

        • Cyrus Draegur@lemm.eeEnglish
          6·
          3 days ago

          thank you for understanding the intended tone (and kinda just a little bit making my day :3)

      • AA5B@lemmy.world
        2·
        2 days ago

        Yeah, actually a low mode would be useful for exactly this, in exactly the same use cases as for ICE cars. Whatever my regen is configured as, if I’m heading down a steep icy hill, maybe I could use an easy way to maximize regen. Heck maybe my battery is not warmed up yet so I don’t have effective regen, but I could really use it for that hill even if that battery can’t use it

      • Aux@feddit.ukEnglish
        29·
        2 days ago

        It seems to me that you don’t understand how EVs work. They don’t have gears (usually) and they don’t have a constantly running combustion engine.

        Neutral and park (park is just neutral with a break automatically applied) do not exist in EVs, because EVs don’t have a constantly running engine. You only need neutral to disengage the clutch to prevent its wear during stops, because always running engine means that the car is always moving. That’s not happening in EVs.

        And you don’t need low/boost because EVs don’t have gears.

        So, you only have reverse and drive.

        • AA5B@lemmy.world
          2·
          2 days ago

          Huh, my EV also has neutral and park. It can be very useful to yet the wheels freewheel or to lock the wheels. However no PRNDL shifter control for usability

          • Aux@feddit.ukEnglish
            1·
            2 days ago

            You can’t freewheel on EV, there’s no mechanism for that. You can have a software simulation though, but it’s not needed for anything.

            • AA5B@lemmy.world
              3·
              2 days ago

              When mine is configured for aggressive regen, it slows the vehicle to a stop. You couldn’t push the car, for example