Seriously, who knows just how many backdoors there are in this shit.
Generally I don’t think Chinese tech is really any worse than “US” (aka; made in china by a US company) tech.
The software running on phones and stuff is likely worse though, some things should be avoided.
Just so you know; American tech is the exact same with different overlords, and Europe is actively banning encryption.
Where do you want to go?
Because any tech has privacy risks?
We’re no longer living in a world where the only major cybersecurity threats are CCP-backed tech and Russian hackers.
The valid answer is that the Chinese police state has no authority over individuals in the West and is unlikely to share information with Western law enforcement given the geopolitical situation. In narrow terms, that makes for an inadvertent privacy win for individuals in the West.
But the problem you describe is certainly real (whatever other seem to think here) for countries in China’s sphere of influence, in Asia, Africa, Latin America. For them, China is already selling off-the-peg solutions for mass surveillance. If your country’s homegrown dictator gets his hands on this stuff, it’s going to be harder than ever to get rid of him.
For us the problem is rather that China is pioneering and normalizing practices that will certainly be adopted and copied one day by our own police forces with our own technology.
Oh look, it’s the French imperialist Anti-tankie propaganda boy again.
Bold of you to assume I’m a boy… Don’t worry I’m used to it sweetie many people, especially brainwashed tankie trolls tend to not understand or respect Nonbinary identities.
They don’t have the mental capacity to hold anything remotely ambiguous or undefined in their rigid minds. So they try to force reality to conform to their overly simplistic little mental landscape.
I mean it’s been talked about over and over again leading to US accusing TikTok of spying on users and EU* banning Huawei and ZTE from 5G infrastructure.
But end users just doesn’t care. They click accept all on every popup without even reading if it’s cookies or to allow the site to send scam antivirus notifications. They buy the cheap chinese phone because it’s cheap just as they buy shit from Temu and Shein even when their plastic is poisonous and their workers are stuck with 75 hour weeks and not being allowed to leave the premises.*Not all EU countries has chosen to ban them.
https://cybernews.com/security/bytedance-used-tiktok-data-spy-on-americans-supreme-court/
https://www.euronews.com/next/2024/08/12/eleven-eu-countries-took-5g-security-measures-to-ban-huawei-zte75 hour weeks nad not being allowed to leave the premises.
That will be coming to the western world before you know it.
It’s already here. We exploit incarcerated people for slave labor, and (I’m sure purely out of coincidence /s) we have one of the highest incarceration rates of any nation in the world. Not to mention private prisons, which is not a thing that would exist in any state existing in good faith.
True that. Also, right to work. I’m not USAmerican though so I’m not as aware.
Yep! And it wasn’t that long ago I actually lost my job explicitly for being gay, which was totally legal. That’s one of the reasons the US has to fear-monger about other nations, so we won’t notice the exact same things or worse happening here.
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An individual has no privacy to protect if the laws are wrong, and laws cannot be changed by individuals.
They can be ignored by individuals
I’m more concerned about security. In most circumstances my data is really not worth that much especially when hardware is involved. They might be collecting some data for other reasons but I am not convinced that a significant amount of hardware has a malicious backdoor.
Yeah individually your data is approximately worth 200$/year (that’s a real estimation I read somewhere, not something I spit out of my ass).
So yeah not much worth you’re right. But if you stop being selfish for a moment and think as a community and take that portion for 1 billion people on earth, how much is that worth? Yeah you guessed it… It’s a huge amount of money ^^ !
So stop thinking only for your self and start to think how we are all involved in this shit and should fight back as much as possible…
whataboutism – as long as you’re distracted by “China!”, you aren’t paying attention to the far more egregious privacy violations happening right here at home
The average American’s naivety is best embodied by Rick Derringer and his “Real American.”
We’re the real deal, we’re the heroes. Everyone else poses danger expect us.
When MH370 disappeared and there was speculation that USAmerica had made it disappear, my mate at the time said “there’s no way America would do that”.
Of course, because world is black & white and that’s something that only bad guys would do.
Because western tech has the same backdoors. look at the NSA leaks and western legislation that allows governments to mandate back doors with gag orders.
The banning of eastern tech is not because the tech may have back doors, it because they likely don’t have western back doors.
And mostly bcs their tech is better and they need an excuse for their protectionism
You could ask the same about US tech?
But those are for hire. Unlike American Democracy, the CCP can’t be bought.
So you always know what is the risk and who’s responsible for it with Chinese tech, and for American tech you’ll never know who’s stealing your data and what enshittification will happen on the next day
And the Chinese can buy from the Americans, just like anyone else, because America’s only loyalty is to profit.
