Let em come. Fight till you die, if you lay down for fascism you’re already dead.
I never thought that I would under a fascist dictatorship. What will the history books say about this.
Depends on where they are printed
I’ve said this in another post, and I’ll say it again.
Where are the resources? Where are the leaders? Where are the groups?
People are scrambling right now because there are a million people screaming and no one leading nor taking direction. We need courage, focus, and precision to win but everyone is acting spineless, scattered, and aloof.
We need every single person online using TOR and/or a VPN. We need an underground railroad. We need protocol to fight against ICE raids. We need places to find weapons (yes, even in blue states because a lot of people still don’t own). And most importantly, as our greatest civil disobedience, we need to stop paying federal taxes. I would even like to go as far as a general strike.
So how are we going to get this and more together? Or are we instead going to sit and cry about this?
I’m donating to Sanders, I donated before and volunteered before for his presidential runs. He’s not perfect by any means but I’m putting money I barely have there. I want to volunteer again, but I’d also look at AOC for organizing and raising money she is very capable. If you want to cross the line to real effort, there’s some good CIA booklets you can find online about simple sabotage. It’s worth looking into.
We’re past the point of speaking out.
I would like for you to consider why the US constitution outlines free speech in its first amendment, and the right to bear arms in the second. The reason why is not that different than the principal of charity, or the social contract of tolerance. The first amendment outlines and sets speech, language, as the first step in challenging authority. But implicit in that principal, is the idea that governments are precluded from not listening, or not being available to that speech. It is literally in why the US constitution is structured the way it is, in putting limits and restraints on governments, not people.
We have devolved long past the point where free speech is respected by the US government, under any interpretation of the words.
The second, is an enshrining of the right to to the use of violence when the first is no longer being respected.
I did speak out already, back when I did not have to worry about being potentially murdered by the state (or at least not nearly as much) for it and voters were apparently were like “Eh lets give the fascist a second chance.”
Like, my level of resentment out weighs my desire to save the people in this country. And I already legitimately have always wanted to live forever (I know I wont, shut the fuck up), let alone not die early. I’m not sticking my head out for my skull to be crushed by a brown shirt after I already have done what I’ve done.
I was going to try and scrounge enough to flee to Canada what with a decent amount of savings, passport, and a Software Engineering degree but after some set backs related to my car dying and the job market imploding basically everywhere I’m now worried I might be fucking stuck here for a while. So now I’m mostly just focused on keeping my head down.
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I might be misunderstanding your response, I voted, constantly (and annoyingly) advocated, and canvassed. I put my job at risk due to my efforts. I’ve cut off family as a result of my agitation.
My resentments are more generalized towards the country at large. But yeah, I can’t reasonably expect you to save me if the brown shirts are already on top of me, that’s not your burden to bare.
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But what if he can disappear people who speak out?
Fight to you die. People will care a lot not when it escalates. You want them to show their colors as soon as possible fascism heavily depends on people slowly boiling alive until it’s already to late.
Well, I look at this way.
Trump is going to fuck me and my family no matter what.
The only way Trump is not going to fuck you is if you make over $250k a year, are a white male adult, and are willing to kiss the ring.
Eventually I will be on that list of people to oppress/disappear because of who I am, not what I’ve done or will do. It’s more than likely you or your family members will be too.
Because while they start with the outspoken, when opposition is silenced, they will move on to crush the meek with a horrible glee. In the end, it won’t matter one whit to them what you do or say unless it gets in their way - it’s about what they want to do to you.
So let your inner Luigi roar. They’re coming for us anyway. You have a chance to speak NOW. Use it. They haven’t won yet, and they won’t if enough of us speak out.
“speak”
Green card holders aren’t citizens.
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If non-citizens don’t get due process, nobody does. All they have to do is claim you’re not a citizen and then good luck proving you are one without due process.
some people don’t seem to realize why it’s called the law of the land, not the law of the citizens.
who said they are and how is that relevant
But that’s the point. If he can do it to people here legally and the other branches don’t push back and/or he ignores judgements concerning it, then the laws start to become meaningless and he’s little less than a king. After that it’s a slippery slope to detaining citizens for speaking poorly about the government, it’s officials or Trump himself.
And not any kind of king. An absolutist king.
i like to speak up in loud bangs
But what do we do? I feel so powerless
You’re not powerless, and you’re not alone.
They want you to be afraid. You know how you beat fear? You fucking let your anger out. Turn that flight reflex into fight. Forge the adrenaline of threat into rage at what this Nazi fuck is doing to our country, to your neighbors, to your family, to YOU.
And then let it cool just enough so that it becomes the blade of freedom that will drive and defend you. Let it guide you tactically and strategically, and find others willing to raise their blades to join yours.
Start going to your local town halls and visit your representatives in person. Write and call them if you can’t - use physical mail.
Join the protests, but with a group looking out for each other and has smart tactics - not carrying cell phones, is ready to defend themselves, masked, and has a smart exit strategy. Be aware that if the police know who you are, so do the alt-right thugs who are willing to do what the police won’'t.
We beat the Nazis before. We beat the Confederacy before.
We will do it again.
My friends and are I looking into making our own commune.
grow a pair and buy a gun
And then what?
Form a terrorist cell, network for it to grow, and start killing people/destroying infrastructure
Or stop pretending like buying a gun does anything and enjoy what the majority of Americans wanted
study history. imagine likely scenarios. learn how to avoid them. prepare prepare prepare.
Buy bullets. Practice shooting.
If Trump can do it, then any president can do it. That’s the real problem.
As awful as he is, I think he serves a good example of the opposite being true. It can serve as a warning.
“If we give any President this authority, someone like Donald Trump could use it if they ever got elected.”
Between palantir and flock cameras they don’t even need to load up the van.
Gonna take more than speaking.
We need to disappear this regime.
