• tailgatebbqdisaster@lemmy.world
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    15 hours ago

    Things like this are why I don’t post or comment on reddit anymore. Sure I still browse, especially niche subs that just don’t have a presence in the fediverse yet, but if I want to contribute something I do it here instead.

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    I dunno, man. Seems like a leap to believe he’s doing it for cynical, shady business reasons when the far more likely explanation is just that he’s a stupid cunt.

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    I got banned for daring to question why people who don’t have children should subsidize those that do by paying school taxes.

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      why people who don’t have children should subsidize those that do by paying school taxes.

      Because when I grow old, I don’t want a society of young uneducated morons to be in charge.

      It’s why I gladly pay school taxes even though I have never had a child, and never will. By funding education to the max, the chances that the next generation becomes even better educated than the last is improved dramatically.

      And this is why conservatism is so hostile to education: it desperately needs the incoming generations to be as uneducated and stupid as possible in order to maintain its electorate.

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        What does that have to do with getting banned for having an opposing view? Also, not sure how having to foot the bill for your own kids would result in poor education.

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          not sure how having to foot the bill for your own kids would result in poor education.

          Because a significant amount of the population of breeding adults simply cannot afford to pay for basic education.

          Not publicly subsidizing education doesn’t mean it’s now privately subsidized; it just results in less of the population getting educated, which is detrimental to the entire population.

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              Lmao, sure. Lots of things shouldn’t happen, but they do; and standing around shaking a finger and saying ‘this shouldn’t be happening’ doesn’t solve the worlds problems.

              Recognizing that you are not in a position to raise a child as well as preventing unwanted/accidental child birth/conception funnily enough; often requires an education.

              Even still, accidents happen; unwanted conception, twins/triplets, loss of parents, financial changes during pregnancy, natural disaster, the list goes on.

        • Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world
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          I think most people here agree that a ban is inappropriate for saying that. As for why needing to pay only for your own kids would result in poor education, it’s because an absolutely massive amount of the population just outright couldn’t afford it. Schools are expensive to run, even more so if you want them to actually give a decent education.

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              While logical; Much of society doesn’t see that as an acceptable option EVER, let alone due to financial hardship.

              Then there’s the dystopia that is enforcing that in any way… What are you going to do, inspect every women every 6mo? That’s not acceptable at all. Some sort of checkpoint at maternity wards? Now women are afraid of hospitals and giving birth without care at home…

              The only real solution is to provide support to those that can’t afford it, and work towards a more educated society that has the stability to plan ahead for such things.

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      Weird take but yeah you should not be banned for that.

      Not sure why they even banned you, it ain’t like the regime likes paying for the kids either.

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      I like how people decided you needed a lecture instead of going “Yea that is pretty fucked up”

      Fucking parents. We don’t care about your kids.

      • Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world
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        To be clear, I don’t think a ban is an appropriate response to saying something like that, but it does have the same implications as saying “why should I pay for car insurance, I’m not going to get in a crash” or “why pay for highways, I never leave my suburb”. Even if you don’t directly benefit from those services existing and being paid for, other people do and you actually do benefit from those other people being better off. For the educating kids subject specifically, think about when you’re 60, do you want to be taken care of by doctors that got a subpar education, or for your retirement funds to run out because the institutions they rely on collapsed due to a lack of educated workers. It is to everyone’s personal benefit in the long run to pay for public services that help the community even if they don’t take advantage of them personally and directly.

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            I am of the opinion that Highways existing in general are a net good, but definitely shouldn’t be built the way they have been and need to be given viable alternatives in most cases. I would have used the example of paying for roads without owning a car, but I made a few assumptions about the kind of person I was replying to and tried to tailor my argument to the kind of person I figured they were (as in, the kind of person that definitely owns a car and uses it extensively).

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              Maybe there is a way they could have been done better, I don’t know, but I always feel the need to push back on this idea because in reality they’ve been an absolute calamity that I’ve been suffering from my whole life as one of the many people forced to live near one.

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                I am going to assume you also live in the US here, because that’s the environment I’m most familiar with and is where I’ve heard the most complaints about highways for. The problem is partly that they were built to go directly through city centers rather than around cities, and it’s way too late to change that, and partly because General Motors propaganda meant that everyone considers cars to just be the default way of getting anywhere to the extent that other options often just don’t exist. For getting between cities, and especially for getting good and produce between cities, highways are a fine option to exist. I would absolutely prefer that high speed rail existed as an alternative, but even if it did I am certain there are some people that would still find it more convenient to drive.

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        Literally all responses are “shouldn’t have gotten banned just because your opinion is stupid” which is true. I’m not a parent and never gonna be but why pretend it’s something it isn’t?

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          When people complain about bans for seemingly absurd reasons with little elaboration, they’re usually leaving out pertinent information. Like it was a sub ban in something like /r/publicschoolteachers and they JAQed off on a topic about teachers being stretched thin to buy school goods for their students because the council cut funding.

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        Good thing you were never a kid! That’d be pretty fucked up if you had been a kid at some point and benefitted from the general public funding your education, then you slam the door behind you and make everyone else pay their own way through elementary school.

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      I got banned for daring to question why people who don’t have children should subsidize those that do by paying school taxes.

      You absolutely should not be banned for asking that. If you meant it in good faith, you should, however, be shamed with the appropriate answer for asking it.

      I’m happy to provide the appropriate shaming if you’d like that discussion.

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        Yes, tell me why your answer is the correct one. Should you subsidize aspects of my life and expenses?

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          If you use public roads, have an insurance policy of any kind, rely on the fact that public services like police and firemen are around in case you need them, or live in a suburb at all, you are having some aspects of your life subsidized by the public at large.

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          You are absolutely free to fuck off to the desert where no one is subsidizing. I’m not just being sarcastic; I have literally fucked off to the desert where no one could bother me or help me. Shit got thirsty and dry yo

    • Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world
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      To answer that question, it’s because it is in the best interest of society as a whole including the people that don’t have children for the next generation to grow up educated and able to contribute productively to society.

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        I would also add to your answer that the person that doesn’t want to pay likely went to public school and already benefited from other people (including child free people) paying for their public education via school taxes and as soon as its that poster’s turn to pay taxes for schools they want to turn it around at the height of selfishness with “fuck you, I got mine”.

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          And also what if they do eventually have kids, how fair would it be if they took advantage of an institution that they hadn’t been paying into the success of.

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            Children getting an education isn’t a gift to the parents, it’s part of just having a society. No one benefits when children are kept from basic learning. That’s why it’s usually not an optional thing.

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          Do you give a shit if they grow up and stick a gun in your face to take your wallet because they have no serviceable skills that can provide them access food?

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            That’s always happened with the frequency ebbing and flowing in every society.

            That’s not going to convince anyone.

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              That’s always happened with the frequency ebbing and flowing in every society.

              Your logic is suggesting that people that can get their needs basic needs met are robbing people to get their basic needs met? That makes no sense. Try again on that one, please.