Let’s be frank: it was a special election where about a tenth of eligible voters turned out.
Trump ain’t gonna see an FDR level midterms victory, unless he manages to destroy the American democracy totally, but I wouldn’t look at this as evidence of some major shift by itself.
to be clear, i’ve only ever seen actual reputable evidence of potential voter fraud through the case with the lady that illegally stole code for voting machines, it’s entirely unclear whether or not anything malicious besides stealing code illegally happened or not, however it’s not impossible that something couldn’t have happened, it’s hard to know for sure.
Every other claim seems like complete bullshit, and honestly, given the trump media circus, knock yourself out bro.
From a reporter who’s been doing this shit since the 80s at least: https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/
He won “legitimately” by suppressing the votes he couldn’t get in swing states. I heard that if you’re black or in a metro area in a swing state that your vote was likely thrown out through some beurocratic bullshit.
Grain of salt: I did hear this on YouTube and I don’t remember the channel, it might have been humanist report or something like that. It definitely sounded legit, though.
They had four years to corrupt the election offices in specific areas and I 100% believe they could and would pursue that opportunity.
EDIT: another poster shared this, this is basically the same thing I heard. https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/
I heard that if you’re black or in a metro area in a swing state that your vote was likely thrown out through some beurocratic bullshit.
the only thing i’ve seen backed up is that a bunch of republicans were challenging registration status of mostly minority identities, pretty much all of which were fraudulent, so it’s possible that this did influence it, not very significantly im guessing, im also pretty sure as a voter, that if your registration was invalid, it would be very very obvious to you. Everything i know about voting registration informs me that you must do all of this BEFORE election day, im not sure if there are any processes that allow you to retroactively do this, im guessing there are a few, but probably for select circumstances, very unlikely to be those im guessing.
Realistically, they probably gerrymandered and ran aggressive campaigning, which appears to have worked.
And what we’ll see is by next election this guy will lose his seat because Republicans and Independence are dumber than goldfish.
It’s more likely all the on the fence voters which accounted for at least 25% of the vote are seeing that they made a mistake and are trying to correct it.
Yeah sure they’re a bunch of evil criminals, so if they had the methods to cheat they probably did.
But let’s say that tomorrow there are worldwide headlines about some irrefutable smoking gun evidence. Or maybe Musk goes on TV being a little bit too high, or Trump gives an interview while a few neurons too many wither and die in his skull, and they say they did it, tell us where to find the evidence, and say it was worth it and they did it because they are patriots trying to save the country. Just doubling down on the old “He who saves his Country does not violate any Law.”
DOES ANYTHING EVEN HAPPEN? Who is gonna do something about it?
The absolute most extreme result I could possibly see being reality would be that Trump manages to get Musk accused and convicted for the interference. That would be just as funny as it is unlikely, but it would fix nothing.
At this point anyone who denies Elon stole the election is just as wilfully important and naive as I was when I thought Trump didn’t collude with Russia. How much blatant evidence do you need before you admit that the cheating fascists are cheating fascists? (they never will because democrats are doing literally nothing to stop Elon illegally dismantling the government)
to be clear, there isn’t hard evidence that shows that trump colluded to win an election with the influence of russia, however it does show a LOT of overlap between the trump campaign, and russian influence in the election, all per the mueller report.
I mean - just by money and messaging or is there some actual data from voting that shows irregularities?
https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/
4,776,706 voters were wrongly purged from voter rolls according to US Elections Assistance Commission data.
By August of 2024, for the first time since 1946, self-proclaimed “vigilante” voter-fraud hunters challenged the rights of 317,886 voters. The NAACP of Georgia estimates that by Election Day, the challenges exceeded 200,000 in Georgia alone.
No less than 2,121,000 mail-in ballots were disqualified for minor clerical errors (e.g. postage due).
At least 585,000 ballots cast in-precinct were also disqualified.
1,216,000 “provisional” ballots were rejected, not counted.
3.24 million new registrations were rejected or not entered on the rolls in time to vote.If the purges, challenges and ballot rejections were random, it wouldn’t matter. It’s anything but random. For example, an audit by the State of Washington found that a Black voter was 400% more likely than a white voter to have their mail-in ballot rejected. Rejection of Black in-person votes, according to a US Civil Rights Commission study in Florida, ran 14.3% or one in seven ballots cast.
There are also the uncountable effects of the explosive growth of voter intimidation tactics including the bomb threats that closed 31 polling stations in Atlanta on Election Day.
Holy Blueanon nonsense, Batman
Now I wonder how this dem will work with trump to screw us over
Trump’s been talking about how he won because of Elon “being good with computers”
Investigations were launched over less
They didn’t need to use computers. https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/
Everone is getting real jumpy around Isreal. Isreal has a booming cyber security industry and is one of the biggest exporters of security exploits that they sell to corporations and nation states.
Stop the steal!
this really draws attention to how unpopular kamala harris was and what a fucked up party the DNC is.
No it doesn’t, it shows how gullible yanks are for trumps bullshit.
Does it?
OMG here we go again.
In most democracies, there are election poll watchers from the major parties, and also independent poll watchers to observe and make sure no shenanigans are going on. The Democratic and independent poll watchers would’ve reported any election irregularities. I not seeing widespread reports of such.
States run elections, even safe blue states shifted 10+ percentanage more red.
So my conclusion: The vote count itself is probably legit.
The real “rigging” was done via unlimited political spending legalized by the Citizens United ruling to unfairly buy propaganda spreading lies. That, exacerbated by inflasion, voter apathy, democratic party incompetence, voter roll purges, and most important of all: Human Stupidity. And this timeline is the result.
Think about all those people getting scammed all the time. You see those stories and be like “OMG how can they be so stupid”. Well this is the same, but with politics and elections. Talk to people and you’ll see how dumb they are. Some people genuinely think that fascist coup plotter will fix things. 🤦♂️
These elections (like the one OP is talking about) are election has lower turnout, so it probably favors democrats, since democrats are more energized to vote after the defeat last november.
Also: https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/ gonna stop spamming this link now, but MAN it’s infuriating that noone even considers this. They’ve been doing voter suppression for decades, how hard is it to connect the dots?
I mean I literally said this:
The real “rigging” was done via unlimited political spending legalized by the Citizens United ruling to unfairly buy propaganda spreading lies. That, exacerbated by inflasion, voter apathy, democratic party incompetence, voter roll purges, and most important of all: Human Stupidity. And this timeline is the result.
My point is, the actual vote count itself is legitimate, but the fairness of the election as a whole was definitely unfair.
All elections in the history of the US has been biased in favor of the more regressive candidate. This one is not much different.
There was a ton of irregularities reported btw. I forget the exact number but like 20-40 with enough evidence that they were bringing the cases forward. But when Trump came in he appointed someone to a role who dismissed them all.
I want to believe that, cause it confirms my biases, but you gotta source?
Took me a while but I found what I was thinking of.
It was the Fired FEC head
But it wasn’t because she was fired they didn’t go forward, it’s because the board is 3/3 dem/rep so a republican would need to ‘flip’
Asked by Alicia Menendez, “What is most alarming to you?” she replied, “Well, I can’t talk about anything that would be currently before the commission by law, complaints that are filed and any investigatory action remains confidential until the cases are closed.”
She then continued. “But I can tell you that in the past we have had 63 separate complaints filed against the president or his political committees –– and not all complaints are well-founded not all complaints are worth the agency’s time to pursue. But our nonpartisan professional staff has advocated that we pursue 31 of those cases and, in not a single one, did we get four votes to move forward.”
This is one of the things they talked about in the election interference hearings in December too
“Almost every matter that the FEC has not pursued is associated with the former president [Trump]” (Rep Torres, about 57minutes in)
Link to thread discussing: https://www.reddit.com/r/somethingiswrong2024/s/JUGCXE7Gab
Link to full hearing on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/live/mIDJ5whpSHQ
Certainly suspicious.
There’s a pretty strong theory that it wass rigged by the tabulator software. One of the guys in DOGE was hired because he literally wrote software that could do that exact thing - modify submitted ballots. His involvement was literally scrubbed from the Internet before people found out about it (they missed a few spots). The Election Truth Alliance did a report on Clark County, NV, showed that there was a heavy skew after around 60% of the ballots were processed that should started lumping everything towards Trump - essentially, the votes should be chaotic, and almost somewhat random, not clearly clustering at the 60% mark.
Other red flags, we had one of the largest years for voter registration, a majority for Democrats. The polling all showed that we were crushing it. His rallies were showing lower turnout, and everything pointed to his platform losing steam…and then he somehow wins every single swing state?
Yeeeaaaahhhhh…that doesn’t happen…you should be questioning the results.
is there any data on registered voter turnout in a handful of counties where it really mattered? Because that would tell you whether or not the discrepancy is due to democrats simply not voting, a well known problem within the democratic party.
Per Ballotopedia: "The average turnout in the seven presidential battleground states was 70% in 2024. This was below the 2020 average, which was 70.7%. "
One additional thing…Trump won every battleground, but somehow Democrats won pretty much every down ballot race in those states. I don’t believe for a second that someone voting Democrat down the board is going to vote Trump…a few voters will sure, but not enough to swing nearly every down ballot race…that’s absurd.
Why aren’t we talking more about all the mail in ballots that were destroyed in mailbox arson attacks or by postal workers?
all 300 of them?
Those people probably knew who they were, and probably voted after the fact.
Also dejoy running the postal service
Yeah, something about this shift in focus feels like a psyop. We have clear evidence of targeted voter suppression, destruction of ballots, etc. In a two party system, fraudulently removing your opponent’s votes has exactly the same impact as creating fake votes for yourself. That’s already clear evidence of fraud, why are we redefining “evidence of fraud” as a new thing that we haven’t found yet?
It’s simple: challenged votes. Watch Vigilantes INC in YouTube.
Libs drowning in copium over… [checks notes]… a state election with a few thousands votes.
When was he last time you read anything that didn’t come from social media?
