• LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
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    17 days ago

    I saw it being denounced as a psyop which I thought was funny, since I think it pretty clearly isn’t one. But directing people to lemmy.ml is bad advice as most of us know.

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      17 days ago

      When I first heard of Lemmy, I curiously poked around, and at the time it was just lemmygrad and ml. Needless to say I backed out quickly. Glad it got some diversity with the api kerfuffle.

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    Should’ve point to .world

    Isn’t that one the most popular of the lemmy instances?

    EDIT: this is mostly so the newcomer finds plenty content to not leave after a few minutes of browsing.

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    I love it, but I fear for the day Lemmy becomes so popular that it is worthwhile for the corporate bots to begin gaming Lemmy’s algorithm to dominate front pages. I don’t think Lemmy is prepared to defend against this.

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      I think we might reach a point that, instead of one application in the beginning, we’d have to have periodic “re-verification” to prove that you are human (and haven’t been taken over by a bot). Like maybe once every 6 months. And on the 5th month, you can begin early submission for the re-verification application.

    • Bayesian@lemmy.ca
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      16 days ago

      I am still new to the fediverse but I figured that smaller constellations will federate without connecting to the largest federation.

      It’s harder to manipulate 500 disjoint federations than 1 really large one. Especially when some of those federations rely on heavy verification.

      Of course those smaller federations are likely organized around specific purposes or organizing interests rather than broad public discourse.

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        Part of what makes Reddit so great is the huge community of content creators. Both the posts and comments. Lemmy has slowly been catching up, but still is far off.

        Defederating from large instances will just result in lower quality content for those instances. I would hope there’d be a better solution, but I’m not smart enough to think of one.

        Maybe the secret is to let each instance control their own sorting algorithm. They keep getting the content from the large instances, but control how it gets brought to the front page. My guess is this would be no small task, but that would definitely make it difficult to game the algorithm.

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          So with all due respect I think you’re coming at this from a different set of experiences and assumptions as to what constitutes “good content.”

          I’m a transsexual and many of us have already migrated into closed Discord servers in order to specifically avoid what you consider to be “benefits” of federating with large instances.

          The same things you think are so great about Reddit have been driving us off the platform for years in search of more niche and protected communities.

          I’m not denying that your use case here is valid. Just that it’s a very mainstream view of what good social media is. But mainstream appeal doesn’t necessarily mean better for all of us in all communities.

          The fediverse has the potential in the digital world to be like gay villages once were in meat world. Isolated and self-segregated, safer than most places though hate crimes and bath house raids still continued, and essential for organizing networks of support/protection between ourselves.

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        17 days ago

        Think of your average redditor. They’ll just think it’s broken and go back to reddit.

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          17 days ago

          Better than them going back to Reddit and thinking “Lemmy is just Tankies”

          Like I’ve seen many times before

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            I honestly think those are bots and children. I was confused only very briefly by the least accessible explanations known to man, before figuring it out for myself. I just wish more people knew how to link !communities and @profiles.

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              !communities federation is busted. sometimes the final link is federated which makes it functionally useless for anyone outside the original instance. I haven’t been able to figure out why, just don’t down vote bomb anyone replying with a working link because it works for you, thanks.

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                I thought it was just my instance doing it! And everyone downvotes links no matter what. I think it’s something to do with apps opening them in the browser? I dunno

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                  They probably don’t want the annoying people commenting “R slash funny” or “r slash clevercomebacks” on every post.

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            I didnt even hear the word tankie til I got here, its just other lemmy users keeping ppl away

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              I think it’s just that they are more obvious here, so it led to a popular use term. Bigger issue is that they can be kinda annoying and I suspect it might only grow their numbers if they are the default community that potential redditors have as their first experience in lemmy.

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    17 days ago

    They should really include the no ads thing. I think it’s a great selling point, and it would be useful to leverage.

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      While this is true some instances do need donations it’s very probable that some instances could include ads in the future.

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        Totally fair, but at the moment, there are none. And even if instances will start using 3rd party ads, there will also be instances that will never run ads. The power of federation at work.

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    16 days ago

    Another reddexit?

    There have been multiple, i left at the second, but reddit is filled to the brim with AI accounts and people who have no idea. Even if its all fake, reddit has enough traffic Tongo on for a while.

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      True. But Reddit has already lost users. I 100% noticed a reduction after they banned 3rd party apps. Daily top posts don’t have as many upvotes as they used to. Less total comments.

      A small win, but a win nonetheless. I mean, we’re here.

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    Here’s the thing. A platform is it’s users. 2 years ago Lemmy rocked. Now the Redditors are arriving and it’s turning into a literal Reddit clone. Open the front page 2 years ago and it was all kinds of exciting and novel stuff. Now it’s Trump bad, nazi bad, fascism bad, racism bad, homophobia bad, musk moron, celebrity dead.

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    Technically correct, but I wonder how people are gonna handle the really serious dictator shit, like friends and relatives disappearing instead of tweets.

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      We need a place to communicate, coordinate, and share what’s happening. Control of the narrative and the ability to prevent coordinated responses are essential for their plans.

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      Does it wax poetic? Yeah, sure.

      Is it right? Yes.

      Is it from our keyboards? So what? That’s how it starts. If we don’t congregate and open communication about what’s happening in a space where we can’t be censored, then there’s no chance of anything in opposition happening.

      It borders on cringe, but I support it 100%.

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        I don’t know how the French are able to rally in real life and put everything on the line to push back fascism. I know I should do something real to fight back, but like, I’ve got a lot going on ya know? Maybe I’ll be rallied by the time atrocities have already happened, but I hope not.

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          We have unions, a variety of political parties and many organisations who have decades, even a century of experience on how to organise rallyes. The only thing common people have to do it show up. And still, most French won’t go even if they sympathise with the message (I almost never do it).

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          The main difference being that France is 248,573 mi² (643,801 km2)

          The contiguous United States is 3,119,000 mi² (8,080,464.3 km²)

          France also has a 3.5x higher population density

          Inhabitants/km²

          • France: 124.4

          • United States: 35.2

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            The country’s population density doesn’t change anything to protest, it’s a cultural thing. People only live in cities anyway why would having huge empty fields affect protests ?

            And there are plenty of denser countries which fight way less.

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          I saw a post on here the other day where someone was complaining that their coworkers “don’t care” about the current political climate and after they elaborated, they were describing people who do care but weren’t actively spearheading a demonstration. I don’t know if they expect them to go stand in traffic or what.

          I give monthly donations to nonprofits that I like and email my state representatives when EFF or Fight for the Future tells me to but I’ve also got a life to live. Just stay informed, vote/petition, donate if you can, but live your life. You can only do so much.

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            I appreciate reminding me that taking the most extreme action is not the only way to respond here. It’s hard to not see Luigi and immediately think ‘that’s actually doing something right there!’ being engaged counts

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      Plot twist: it’s a ploy by reddit to get extremists off their platform and on to Lemmy