It appears the US congress has just proposed (edited) a bill that declares “Antifa” a terrorist organization.

This doesn’t even make sense as Antifa isn’t an organization, but just a shared name for anyone that self-identifies as a person opposed to and willing to fight fascism 🤦‍♂️

Stay safe out there!

Note: SLRPNK is an EU based service and we are openly Antifa here, and proudly so!

  • humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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    antifa is not an organization. It’s more of an identification, and a label that is placed by state media. BLM is an organization that might show up to same event. Anyone protesting Musk/nazi adjacent rules, would be called antifa.

    This is a law against protests, where the more fascist the rulers are, the less you are allowed to protest.

  • LustyArgonian@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Wrote up a summary months ago (with reputable sources!) and warned about Nazis too and was permabanned from Lemmy news and politics for it.

    Idk man, you can tell people stuff, but it’s so hard for them to access what’s real right now. There’s a concerted online effort to suppress factual info.

    https://lemmy.world/comment/13431373

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    The oligarchs are declaring war on the American population.

    How far will they go until We the People get fed up? $10 eggs might be cutting it close.

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      Where tf do eggs cost so much? Am I really so far out in the country/removed from the shopping that I thought $4 a dozen sounded high? $5 is like, free range lady down the street price but she’s gotta get hers so I don’t begrudge her price.

    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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      Calling MLK a terrorist is like calling Gandhi a terrorist. They were both non violent.

      Taking another angle, why aren’t drone strikes considered terrorism?

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        Was totally a thing at the time:

        The definition of terrorism specifically carves out nation state actors. If Osama Bin Laden were part of the Afghanistan military structure, then he wouldn’t be a terrorist. Instead, he was running his own organization with Afghanistan support, which made him a non-state actor. So drone strikes by a nation state military wouldn’t be terrorism, but would be if it’s done by some rando.

        Now, if you want to argue that nation states adopted a definition that conveniently left themselves out, I would agree.

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    Maybe we just call ourselves “antfash” and if they ask we are just really into dressing up ants?

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      When arrested, simply state, “Oh, no. You misunderstood! I’m totally anti-fashion and have absolutely nothing to do with those sorts you’ve clearly mislabeled me to by mistake!”

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      They don’t care about the letter of the law, only putting people that disagree with them in prison.

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      Hmm. Could you reverse psychology it? “Antifa were the real fascists, so we decided we’re just going to call ourselves fascists.” And what would they do? Write a law declaring fascists to be terrorists?

      Jokes.

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      The problem is they’re going to decide who is and is not antifa. If they say you are, then you are. And if they say antifa are terrorists, then they are. Something like this is the end result in the “war on terror” stuff from the early 2000s. Or, alternately, “anything I don’t like is woke” except they’ll send the cops and/or feds to crack your skull or just straight up kill you.

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    This is why you don’t let the nazis organize freely. They will always do what you should have done to them. Even when they had Trump on actual crimes they made sure that he would get the best possible chance to get away with it.

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    It’s marjorie taylor greene bullshit. Hopefully the rest of congress is smarter than this.

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    Good! I’m not a Nazi but I think ANYONE that is Anti Nazi is a TERRORIST! And anyone who does a One Armed Salute is a HERO!

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      As others have mentioned, they didn’t fail to learn it. Broadness and vagueness is the point. It’s a weapon, and broadness makes it a sharper tool to suppress anyone and everyone. Membership isnt a thing. So worst case scenario, they can easily say, “they called trump a fascist, and antifa literature has stated they aim to fight what they call fascism. Therefore they’re enemies of the state.”

      At what point is crying fascism going to actually scare people? Because shit like this is definitely scary. They want a reason to arrest you? They look back at your social media and say in 2020 you posted pro-BLM remarks, supported the protests and defended property destruction: antifa.

      Fucked up.

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      Antifa is like communism. Hitler is a communist and thus is evil until he is a smart man whose symbols we should revere and have streets named after him, then he is a nationalist who was assaulted by Poland and had to defend himself and whom the French and British suddenly and unjustly declared war on and claimed that Germans must be exterminated.

      ‘We cannot rest until the sound of the German language is still heard around the platter we call earth.’ Neville Chamberlin.


      You probably realized that most of the stuff I wrote is deliberate bullshit. But there have been so many real examples of stuff written like that (fake quotes, strings of events that were either invented or skewed so badly they cease to resemble reality) that this is what a ‘debate’ with a fascist looks like. We’ve seen it with the whole Haitians are eating cats and dogs. That shit came out of nowhere and despite Kamala rightly laughing at it, people ate it all up and believed it.

      Then they will accuse their opponents of being stupid and believing it… until they start to say it is real again when it is convenient. Pathological lying is a feature, not a bug.