To be clear, I am only talking about people like the average working class Trump voter. The ones who just got caught by misinformation, and just haven’t been able to find a way out. Trump and all his mates are terrible people, and should be held accountable.

The average voter is another thing. My attitude is that I got lucky, and found out that Trump and his mates are terrible, instead of getting sucked down a rabbit hole of supporting them. Knowing how fascism works, I don’t know if I’d be able to reliably land on the right side if fascism happened in my home country. And if I don’t believe I could reliably spot fascism, I’m not comfortable acting like those who support Trump could have.

This isn’t a discussion of “just be a good person”. I know plenty of amazing, caring people who believe they’re doing the right thing.

This whole idea of “I can’t say is reliably avoid fascism” is based on this, the school that became fascist for a week. As bad of an experiment that was from that teacher, it was an effective way of teaching how people fall for what should be obviously a bad thing.

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    6 hours ago

    I am considering whether my mother and I will have a relationship going forward. It was already strained by the last orange term. I instituted a no-politics rule to save our relationship.

    She knows I’ve been planning to move to NZ because he won again. I mentioned that I’m feeling enormous conflict about leaving my partner (can’t follow due to refugee status and lack of citizenship) and she told me she’s optimistic about the future and we live in the “greatest country on earth.” This was on inauguration day and I fucking lost it.

    Emails that I have sent to her since:

    Subj: Trump orders US withdrawal from the World Health Organization - Ars Technica

    You shouldn’t vote and your offspring have to live with the consequences of your vote.

    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/trump-orders-us-withdrawal-from-the-world-health-organization/

    Subj: He pardoned the Jan 6 rioters

    You contributed to violent criminals (some convicted of seditious conspiracy) walking free. You did this.

    Subj: You voted to humiliate my friends

    https://www.notus.org/whitehouse/trump-gender-sex-order-passports

    Subj: Trump Rescinds Biden Order Aimed at Lowering Prescription Drug Prices

    You cause harm to innocent people with your vote.

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-drug-prices

    Honestly, I’ve concluded that she’s a bad person for voting for him. I still love her. She raised me and protected me from an abusive father (as best she could). But this fucking sucks and she sucks for helping to make it happen. There’s a real possibility that I will end my relationship with her because of this. And that sucks, but there has to be a line.

    • Skeezix@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      4 hours ago

      So how far have you gotten with your plans for NZ? I ask because I always see people commenting about doing that but 99.9% of them are just venting.