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🏴 hamid the villain [he/him] 🏴@vegantheoryclub.org to Memes@lemmy.ml · 4 months ago

Are the tankies in the room with you now?

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Are the tankies in the room with you now?

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🏴 hamid the villain [he/him] 🏴@vegantheoryclub.org to Memes@lemmy.ml · 4 months ago
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    In the global terms of political discourse the Democratic party is as of the most recent election now Center Right and the Republican party is Far Right. The Dems in the US, in recent history, started moving to the right with Clinton, arrived at the center with Obama and have now moved into the right with Biden/Harris/Walz.

    https://manifesto-project.wzb.eu/

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/06/26/opinion/sunday/republican-platform-far-right.html

    https://lawcha.org/2016/11/23/bill-clinton-remade-democratic-party-abandoning-unions-working-class-whites/

    https://www.politico.com/story/2008/07/obamas-steady-centrism-011880

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-10-10/2024-election-kamala-harris-policy-shifts

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      Hmm interesting context i didn’t know about. It would seem to me, however, that this is only a reflection of the direction the party leaders are taking the party towards and not actual sentiments of party members. The democrats are a huge contradiction basically.

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        Sanders in 2016 proved that only the Dem Party leader interests matter to the Dem Party.

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          Guess that explains why Trump is back

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            I wouldn’t go that far. Billionaires want fewer regulations on taxes and monopolies. Trump and Kamala were going to allow the same profits for the oligarchs.

            Democratic leadership didn’t want Trump elected. They don’t have the same levers of power with a Republican majority government.

            Dem leadership however has been very disconnected from what the common voter experiences since Clinton. Obama and his grass roots efforts were too large to ignore. They made changes to the process during Obama’s second term to favor establishment candidates and representatives. Then made further changes in 2016/2020 during those primaries and didn’t hold primaries in 2024.

            These led to low voter engagement as they didn’t talk about what the common voter was upset about. And during Biden’s presidency didn’t highlight Republican obstructionism nor did they do anything that would’ve lowered prices for Americans like medicare for all or breaking up grocery/pharmaceutical/agribusiness monopolies that were price gouging under the auspice of inflation.

            This all led to Harris not being elected, not Trump being elected. This is however a pedantic distinction in a two party system.

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