On our own instance no less lmao
Inb4 YoU CaN jUsT bLOcK uSsSSs
Ah yes, but you do not fear .ml, you only bring it up all the time and demand it be blocked for everyone on .world because…? You can just block it yourself, putting it in spongebob case doesn’t make that point invalid.
I like being able to see news not dictated by Western media which somehow all turn out to be controlled by Israel.
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Good lord, and any criticism of an authoritarian communist government and they expose just how much they love the taste of boots.
Once, I was called a “debate pervert” and then banned from a community with “debate pervert” given as the reason.
Why?
I dared to point out that a user’s comment was full of logical fallacies.
They hate that, because there’s no way to argue back against it.
Okay, but debate pervert is really funny, though.
I laughed when I first read it. I still have no idea what it means.
Nice set of logical fallacies in this comment, and I don’t see any citations supporting your anecdote.
“no u”
Got lots of that, too. It’s like speaking to a 4 year-old
If you think the world works like high School debate clubs, you need to head back to Ben Shapiro’s butt hit basement emporium and get back to circle jerking over pointless pedantry that never affects the meaning of a message or argument.
I was just making fun of you, since, you know, you’re just a generic right-winger using the same tactics and excuses.
Holy projection, Batman. If you projected any harder, you‘d need an IMAX theater.
Of course, the childish insults were totally expected. And, of course, you couldn’t be more wrong about me. That’s what you get when you make the foolish mistake of assuming you know strangers on the Internet.
Child you literally complained about being called a debate pervert while being a debate pervert.
In ten years when you come back from Ben Shapiro’s sweaty ballsac, let me know
This is the funniest thing I’ve ever read, lol
Stay mad, and keep fantasizing about Ben Shapiro’s sweaty ball sack
Your entire comment history reads like a cautionary tale of what happens when you deny a child the attention they crave.
I don’t see you actually countering his statement, just throwing random sentences out.
I just did what he did little buddy. There’s nothing to “counter” lil Shapiro, the world doesn’t work like that.
So, still just throwing out random sentences thinking you are making a point.
I’ve seen people banned with “liberal” being the reason.
I mean, at the limit, if they were clear in their rules that only radical leftists are allowed (which you would assume given it’s called ML - marxist leninism) it might be acceptable.
The genocide denial and masquerading as a neutral all purpose instance isn’t though.
Fallacy fallacy: only because it contains a fallacy (or a bunch) the argument isn’t necessarily void.
Still stacking fallacies isn’t usually a sign of a good and or valid argument.
It wasn’t a fallacy fallacy. Their entire argument, nay, their entire identity, was based on a foundation of logical fallacies.
And no, their argument was definitely not valid in any way.
Moving the goalpost fallacy. You wrote in your comment to which I replied that no argument can be made against pointing out that someone’s arguments contains fallacies, which is not true.
I wasn’t present as you got hurt arguing on the Internet so I couldn’t anticipate that you were up against someone who’s “entire identity was based on logical fallacies” (ad hominem).
Wow, nice straw man you got there, lol
Also, pointing out that someone bases their entire identity around something isn’t an ad hominem. Even if it were, by your own logic, it wouldn’t make me wrong.
Nice try though
Would you be so kind as to point out the straw man in that?
And no I don’t think you are necessarily wrong, I think you apply your standards selectively.
Now you’re just sealioning. It’s like you can’t even control yourself.
“authoritarian communist” is an oxymoron to begin with. how can you build a society where everyone is equal by enforcing authority
Well, every so called communist government has been one, so there are examples…
Thanks for making my point.
I mean don’t you prove his point, by pointing out that all governments that call themselves communist are “so called communist governments”? So they aren’t doing communism right, else they could call themselves rightfully communist.
I do share the notion that communism is an ideology or economic system that is supposed to liberate people from class war. So it should be a liberating force. Suppressing dissent, free media, and casually engaging in imperialism and ethnic cleansing is not what I’d imagine a liberating government would do.
Obviously democracies with “free markets” also have these pitfalls. Not to say that both are equally wrong, but both are surely not the implementation of its self proclaimed ideals.
Another one crawling out the woodwork.
What?
All they know how to do is to insult people who disagree with them.
The hilarious irony, they technically agree. He’s just not knowledgeable enough to know it.
Every government that called itself communist, yes
I would tolerate them a little more if it weren’t for the constant brigading.
Wanna analyze Marxist-Leninist-Maoist theory, self-crit, and all that good stuff? Fine by me, I like discussion of varying viewpoints. But often it’s not about that but are bad faith arguments and whataboutisms about how the decadent West is ruled by the US and how Putin/Kim/Xi did nothing wrong.
It’s exhausting. I don’t go into their subs and rattle on about liberal market economics.
Like, I get it…I get their issues with capitalism. But it’s not like socialism won’t have it’s own problems.
Personally, I’d rather not go through a bloody civil war in order to inact a new system, because I know that my children are going to be the ones that have to suffer that nightmare. I’d much rather try to fix the problems of our current system than start from the beginning with a brand new one.
You couldn’t be more right. Take a look around, and you’ll see they’re here in the comments.
Methinks thou doth protest too much
That’s what you get for thinking, Shakespeare
Oh, and the line is, “Methinks the lady doth protest too much.”
You know that fella can’t read, right?
It’s actually: “The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”
Dammit, you’re right
This above all: to thine own self be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man. 😀
Chronically online posting
You just know something really rattled OP and made them post this
I’m pretty happy to be off .world and exposed to the slightly wider 'verse. The MLs and Hexbears aren’t all that bad. I’ve seen some absolute dogshit leftist takes from some of them, but I’ve seen plenty of dogshit “centrism” on .world too.
Ultimately, you just have to do some of your own blocking/moderating work, while trying to remember that only anarchists are always right and to be patient while everyone else catches up.
yeah .world has some weird vibes, I don’t think it’s exactly centrist but I don’t like how the vocal ones there seem to have a superiority complex against ml, hexbear and lemmygrad.
I don’t like many of the communities on these instances either but I don’t think that .world users should be the ones to hold the power and cry to the wider fediverse when we don’t do exactly what they do
the vocal ones there seem to have a superiority complex against ml, hexbear and lemmygrad.
Those vocal ones who tend to call ‘genocide denial’ and ‘genocide apologia’ have a track record of supporting Israel in Gaza or outright glorifying Imperial Japan and chinese warlords. They’re well aware of the absurdity, which is the point of their drive to enter leftist spaces.
The same folk tend to enter lgbtq and trans spaces to gatekeep definitions there–where they also get banned and then complain about it.
The same folk tend to enter lgbtq and trans spaces to gatekeep definitions there–where they also get banned and then complain about it.
It was really uncanny how many of those power users were bent out of shape over trans people in trans spaces wanting to respect neo pronouns.
Hey, guys. So, I haven’t received any of my payouts from the CIA yet and I have pocket knives and stuff to buy, so… Is there like somebody in HR I can email about this or something?
You gotta sling them an email at: [email protected]
They should be able to put you in touch with accounts.
You can just talk to Jerry. He’s the guy in the grey sedan across your street. If you give him the code word, he’ll give you the package.
And if not, you can reach Garry inside your walls. He’ll file a complaint with the higher-ups.
It’s all funny but I thought it weird how .world deleted most pro Luigi posts that first week.
The News community did because it promoted violence or whatever their reason was, but there were tons of pro Luigi posts and comments in the memes communities that I don’t remember being deleted. It was not a .world wide thing.
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Mobile infantry, you say? My desire to know more has suddenly intensified.
Mobile infantry has made us the country we are today.
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Every comment I get from .ml is just weird and bad. I’m really at the point of blocking the whole instance.
One non hateful comment. Have a nice Weekend fella!
Though since everyone hates this instance I am thinking about moving to another.
There’s a lot of good options!
It worked wonders for me
I had to block them after trying not to. I originally thought, meh I’ll see what they have to say. That lasted less than a year. They think the word rice is racist.
The plural of anecdote is not data, but 90% of comments that I’ve seen defending russia in particular had been from .ml
That’s been my experience too, unfortunately.
I do see that
.mlhas lots of regular users too, but in addition, the tankies are almost exclusively there.Yeah, probability of being a tankie given .ml is not as high as some make it out to be, but probability of .ml given tankie is very high
Anecdata.
The plural of anecdote is “in my experience”
It sounds frustrating. I’m sorry it has been that way.
Is this a shitpost?
It’s caused shit in the comments.
emotional damage
Text you can hear.
Honestly it’s kinda sad how much people care about what instances other people are on, just because someone is on a certain instance that has some people who may have bad opinions and do certain things that aren’t right doesn’t mean everyone on that instance is to blame.
Secondly you obviously don’t hate the instance that much considering how much content you re upload from there, or are you just “getting your own back” because you think people on that instance shouldn’t be able to upload their content.
Thirdly the fediverse was designed to have multiple instances with multiple communities so trying to get other instances you specifically don’t like de-federated kinda goes against the point.
And finally you dislike .ml and there devs that much that you use a different instance on the platform they made. So going back to point 2 you obviously don’t hate them that much because you use the platform they made and also re upload content from that instance.
Why can’t people just enjoy the content lemmy has to offer instead of moaning about the few people that may have unsavoury opinions or views, the world is full of people with unsavoury opinions and views do you go out and look past all the good people or do you stress and care that much about the people who arnt so good?
Lot of words typed for a person with nothing to say
Especially considering there are like twelve people on every instance combined
Verifiably false,
By raw user count, lemmy.world and even Lemmynsfw.com are individually bigger than .ml (no idea what’s up with that alien.top)
And by MAUs, .ml just barely makes the top 5
I think alien.top is a proxy for refit so those users are likely bot users that go in place of Reddit users
When I said every instance, I was including .ml.
But also I was being hyperbolic - you don’t have to prove that there are more than twelve Lemmy accounts
First, you didn’t pay attention to the meme at all, because if you had you would realize that I said .ml tankies specifically (or you did and then it’s kinda funny how you immediately thought I was talking about all .ml users)
Second, .ml is actively hurting Lemmy in the Fediverse now
Third, it’s mostly about the tankie “culture” (read pro-China, pro-Russia and even pro-NK misinformation and propaganda) that the devs, admins and mods encourage and enforce. You can’t even post anything negative, no matter how backed by facts or deserving it is, about China or Russia without getting some sort of ban. China IS an authoritarian dictatorship masquerading as fake communism.
Fourth, .ml admins and mods doesn’t want Lemmy to grow even at a healthy pace, if it’s not growing in the direction they want (e.g. a tankie echo chamber).
Fifth, I have no other major issues or concern with any other instance that hasn’t been already addressed (eg hexbear, lemmygrad)
Like a politician you avoided my main point about you re-uploading every post you see on .ml and the fact that you are using the platform that the admins of .ml (also the lemmy devs) created.
re-uploading is ok it’s part of social media but specifically targeting certain people is just sad it’s like you hate what they do on .ml but you’ll re upload their content.
And if you hate their ideas and views then why use their platform?
So sorry I didn’t address every single thing on your wall of text, here:
Like a politician you avoided my main point about you re-uploading every post you see on .ml
Cross-posting, using a built-in Lemmy feature I might add (not exactly hiding it lmao) to non-.ml communities as part of an ongoing effort to grow non-.ml communities. I don’t target anyone specific like you seem to say.
the fact that you are using the platform that the admins of .ml (also the lemmy devs) created.
And if you hate their ideas and views then why use their platform?
I’m a wholehearted believer in the idea of separating the art from the artist where its use and/or viewing does not financially support the artist with views I disagree with. In addition, I don’t have control over the underlying software in use on any given instance AND it’s the Fediverse, even if I was on say a piefed instance, the .ml instance and content would still be federated. Because ya know, the Fediverse.
And also, so you admit the admins and mods are Tankies then?
This picture above is a cross post
Yours isn’t a cross post it’s a save picture that’s been uploaded again
Nope, try again or check with your client dev
Edit: also, now who’s the politician? Choosing to focus on an entirely irrelevant point instead of addressing the actual problems lmao
So you’re just but hurt your unsourced propaganda gets banned?
How fucking fragile is your world view?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China
The PRC officially terms itself as a democracy, using terms such as “socialist consultative democracy”, and “whole-process people’s democracy”. However, the country is commonly described as an authoritarian one-party state and a dictatorship, with among the heaviest restrictions worldwide in many areas, most notably against freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, free formation of social organizations, freedom of religion and free access to the Internet. China has consistently been ranked amongst the lowest as an “authoritarian regime” by the Economist Intelligence Unit’s Democracy Index, ranking at 148th out of 167 countries in 2023. Other sources suggest that terming China as “authoritarian” does not sufficiently account for the multiple consultation mechanisms that exist in Chinese government.
Or in other words, says one thing, but does another
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She subsequently joined the Atlantic Council and the US Department of State’s Foreign Affairs Policy Board.
Wikipedia is not a source , and your ‘source’ does not support your argument. It states some claim it’s not a democracy, mainly it’s military enemies who themselves claim to be a democracy, but less than 10% of the populace gets any power.
Can you freely criticize the government in China? Is the press in China free and independent? Do the Chinese people have free and open access to the Internet? Are you allowed to protest the government in China?
No, no, no and no. Sounds like it fits the definition of an authoritarian government, despite what said government “officially” says they are.
YoU CaN jUsT bLOcK uSsSSs
But that’s where all the funny shit is. The collective .ml take on most things is comedy gold!
Really only see weirdly online .world users making posts about it.
There are over a trillion hectares of free real estate in those minds. Manifest destiny is back for .ml. Who new the market place of ideas could be so scary?
Yes what the fuck is up with that? If you don’t like marxism-leninism, you can keep that to yourself. Stop shoving your politics down everyone’s throats with these cringe-ass memes. Just having a .world account makes me feel second-hand embarrassment for people like op
Lmao
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Then you didn’t look hard enough, whenever .world comes up it’s always we’re some flavor of a CIA front, US military front, or reddit-lite
They don’t often call for defederation because doing so would cut off a huge chunk of content
